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I am also ready to spend days at Capitol if IV add it as Action Item. Good work Sundaram....other people like me definitely will get inspired from you.
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Senate Floor Wrap Up for Saturday, December 17, 2011 | Senate Democrats

At above link says "Began the Rule 14 process of H.R.3012".
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Thumbs up +ve news vindicating our faith in IV

As I said in last post, We should take Grassley's amendment in the context of legislative process. Applying same logic, we should also take this rule XIV and whatever happens in future in the same context. One thing that should be clear now to remaining skeptics is IV is working around the clock for all of us. At least I for one did not see any other organization being so committed to our cause. Great job IV and I+We Rock
Would really appreciate if IV core at least posts something asking us keep moving forward in the same direction that we were asked. I understand information should not be leaked but atleast a "GO GET IT" message will really help all of us.
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Default Status Updated Firt Time for H.R. 3012 since Received in the Senate on Nov 30 2011

Now status at Bill Summary & Status - 112th Congress (2011 - 2012) - H.R.3012 - THOMAS (Library of Congress)
Latest Major Action: 12/17/2011 Read the first time. Placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. Hope our bill keep moving forward.

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Here is how Mr. Harry Reid is behind this bill ==>
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MEASURES READ THE FIRST TIME--H.R. 440 AND H.R. 3012 -- (Senate - December 17, 2011)

[Page: S8782] GPO's PDF

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Mr. REID. Mr. President, I am told there are two bills at the desk due for their first reading.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will read the titles of the bills for the first time.

The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:

A bill (H.R. 440) to provide for the establishment of the Special Envoy to Promote Religious Freedom of Religious Minorities in the Near East and South Central Asia.

A bill (H.R. 3012 ) to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes.

Mr. REID. Mr. President, I now ask for a second reading, and object to my own request, all en bloc.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.

[Page: S8783] GPO's PDF

The bills will be read for the second time on the next legislative day.
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If you want to see it yourself, go to thomas.loc.gov/home/LegislativeData.php?&n=Record and Search for "MEASURES READ THE FIRST TIME".

You will get lot of results for every legislative day. Click on 42 . MEASURES READ THE FIRST TIME -- (Senate - December 17, 2011) . You will find above reading.

Rule 14 introduced, already read one time, It will be read second time on Jan 23rd and put to the vote. Hahahaha.
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Everyone,
The bill is in a good place.everything takes time and one should not expect the bill to pass overnight or get depressed by hearing daily news or updates. Advocacy is a long process and we have come very far and are well positioned.
Do not pay much attention to all misinformation and confusion on forums. Keep the focus. Updates on other websites are also posted by people who are not in the thick of things and are not experts in advocacy. So do not post those links around and spread more confusion. immigration voice as been leading this effort and we are glad that things are moving well due to everyones support. Without support from this community and hard work the bill could not have passed the House. There are two important action items we should be focussing on as immediate need. We need to spread the word and contribute for the next stage of the bill. If you have contributed for getting the bill passed in the house, it is time to help us pass the next step in the senate. We need lot of people and support to carry us through this step.

It is high time the unfair and discriminatory country limits are removed from the employment based visa system.

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Thumbs up Thank you Pappu

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Everyone,
The bill is in a good place.everything takes time and one should not expect the bill to pass overnight or get depressed by hearing daily news or updates. Advocacy is a long process and we have come very far and are well positioned.
Do not pay much attention to all misinformation and confusion on forums. Keep the focus. Updates on other websites are also posted by people who are not in the thick of things and are not experts in advocacy. So do not post those links around and spread more confusion. immigration voice as been leading this effort and we are glad that things are moving well due to everyones support. Without support from this community and hard work the bill could not have passed the House. There are two important action items we should be focussing on as immediate need. We need to spread the word and contribute for the next stage of the bill. If you have contributed for getting the bill passed in the house, it is time to help us pass the next step in the senate. We need lot of people and support to carry us through this step.

It is high time the unfair and discriminatory country limits are removed from the employment based visa system.
This really clears the trash we accumulated in our brains by reading/hearing from other websites/ppl. I said it before and I will say it again, IV is the only organization that is truly committed to our cause and I can't thank enough you and everyone behind the scenes who is laboring by investing time and energy. you guys are true example of exemplary leadership.
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Here is the link for everyone's reference: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CREC-20...2-6.pdf#page=1

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MEASURES READ THE FIRST TIME--H.R. 440 AND H.R. 3012 -- (Senate - December 17, 2011)
[Page: S8782] GPO's PDF
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Mr. REID. Mr. President, I am told there are two bills at the desk due for their first reading.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. The clerk will read the titles of the bills for the first time.

The assistant legislative clerk read as follows:

A bill (H.R. 440) to provide for the establishment of the Special Envoy to Promote Religious Freedom of Religious Minorities in the Near East and South Central Asia.

A bill (H.R. 3012 ) to amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and for other purposes.

Mr. REID. Mr. President, I now ask for a second reading, and object to my own request, all en bloc.

The PRESIDING OFFICER. Objection is heard.
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Pardon my ignorance, What is Rule 14 process ??

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Default Here is the Rule 14 link

http://www.llsdc.org/attachments/wys...RS-RS22299.pdf
Already Rule 14 started as bill read once.

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Yesterday, in the Senate, H.R.3012, Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011, was read the first time on the floor and placed on Senate Legislative Calendar under Read the First Time. It will be interesting to watch how and when this bill will sail through. A bill must be read second time and if motion to proceed and motion to cloture are presented, we will learn whether there will be filibuster by Sen. Grassley.

As a side note, there was a small political development in the State of Utah. Its Senior Senator Orrin Hatch will have to rerun for his seat and there was educated rumor that the rising star House Representative Chaffetz, the sponsor of H.R. 3012, would challenge his Senate seat in the election, but yesterday there was report that Rep. Chaffetz had decided that he would not challenge Sen. Hatch's seat in the coming election and this news was taken as a huge relief for Senator Hatch's political career. One may speculate what might have gone on behind the scene between Sen. Hatch and Rep. Chaffetz relating to the H.R. 3012 which had been on hold in the Senate. Sen. Hatch is one of the longest Senior Senators in the U.S. Senate, and should he lend his hands on this bill, it would help tremendously to crack the barrier. Please stay tuned to this website for the interesting development of this legislation. This reporter is very interested in the move of Sen. Grassley and the sponsors of S. 1983 (numerical limit elimination & Irish visa bill), Sen. Chuck Schumer, Sen. Dick Durbin, and Sen. Patrick Leahy - all heavy weights in the Senate. Very exciting!

As for the timing, the Senate has reaached unanimous-consent agreement yesterday that when the Senate completes its business on 12/17/2011, it adjourn and convene for pro forma sessions only with no business conducted on the following dates and times and that following each pro forma session, the Senate adjourn until the following pro forma session: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 at 11 a.m., Friday, December 23, 2011 at 9:30 a.m., Tuesday, December 27, 2011 at 12 p.m., Friday, December 30, 2011 at 11 a.m.; and that the 2nd session of the 112th Congress convene on Tuesday, January 3, 2012 at 12 p.m., for a pro forma session only with no business conducted D1384and that following the pro forma session, the Senate adjourn and convene for pro forma sessions only with no business conducted on the following dates and times and that following each pro forma session, the Senate adjourn until the following pro forma session: Friday, January 6, 2012 at 11 a.m., Tuesday, January 10, 2012 at 11 a.m., Friday, January 13, 2012 at 12 p.m., Tuesday, January 17, 2012 at 10:15 a.m., Friday, January 20, 2012 at 2 p.m.; and that the Senate adjourn on Friday, January 20, 2012 until 2 p.m. on Monday, January 23, 2012. The House is also adjourned for a constituent work period. During this period, members of the House return to their districts to meet with constituents. House will also have in pro forma session, but no legislative actions will take place until next year.

It thus appears the readers may be able to hold their long breathe for a while to hear exiciting news, if any. Believe me, there will be a lot of things going on during the recess!! In this regards, H.R. 3012 is not quite dead yet.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO YOU, DISTINGUISHED LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE!!!
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Let us focus on our action items ...

Action item: HR 3012: As of 12/16/11
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/fo...2-16-11-a.html

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The bill is in a good place.everything takes time and one should not expect the bill to pass overnight or get depressed by hearing daily news or updates. Advocacy is a long process and we have come very far and are well positioned.
Do not pay much attention to all misinformation and confusion on forums. Keep the focus. Updates on other websites are also posted by people who are not in the thick of things and are not experts in advocacy. So do not post those links around and spread more confusion. immigration voice as been leading this effort and we are glad that things are moving well due to everyones support. Without support from this community and hard work the bill could not have passed the House. There are two important action items we should be focussing on as immediate need. We need to spread the word and contribute for the next stage of the bill. If you have contributed for getting the bill passed in the house, it is time to help us pass the next step in the senate. We need lot of people and support to carry us through this step.

It is high time the unfair and discriminatory country limits are removed from the employment based visa system.
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Everyone,
The bill is in a good place.everything takes time and one should not expect the bill to pass overnight or get depressed by hearing daily news or updates. Advocacy is a long process and we have come very far and are well positioned.
Do not pay much attention to all misinformation and confusion on forums. Keep the focus. Updates on other websites are also posted by people who are not in the thick of things and are not experts in advocacy. So do not post those links around and spread more confusion. immigration voice as been leading this effort and we are glad that things are moving well due to everyones support. Without support from this community and hard work the bill could not have passed the House. There are two important action items we should be focussing on as immediate need. We need to spread the word and contribute for the next stage of the bill. If you have contributed for getting the bill passed in the house, it is time to help us pass the next step in the senate. We need lot of people and support to carry us through this step.

It is high time the unfair and discriminatory country limits are removed from the employment based visa system.
Right said Pappu. I think we take way too much stress over trivial things and misinformation that are posted on internet.

Let us just do IV's AIs "DAILY".
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