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Nothing new, trying to attach E3 to 3012. See todays Politico story. Politico is big on the hill.
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I understand that given the time constraint and for other reasons HR 3012 was less likely to be added to Payroll Tax cut bill but the point here is if HR 3012 gets added as a Rider to a popular bill like Payroll Tax cut extension or an important bill like an appropriation bill then it is less likely to be effectively filibustered (although riders are generally added to avoid Veto which was never a risk here).

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When Congress does not or cannot produce separate bills in a timely fashion, it will roll many of the separate appropriations bills into one omnibus spending bill. Some of the reasons that Congress might not complete all the separate bills include partisan disagreement, disagreement amongst members of the same political party, and too much work on other bills.
So if nothing happens in the Senate on HR 3012, then by end of the year we can hope and try for Omnibus spending bill.

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Voting on Payroll Tax cut extension is tomorrow. If HR 3012 is attached to this bill then Grassley would have hard time putting a hold on the primary bill due to its popularity. At the most he can bring amendment to drop HR 3012 and I think it would need a simple majority to reject that amendment. This can potentially ensure smooth sailing for our bill. Any thoughts on this??
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So if nothing happens in the Senate on HR 3012, then by end of the year we can hope and try for Omnibus spending bill.

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Please don't say that we have to wait till the end of the year. I am hoping that we will be done with this bill by the end of March since from Feb end to March end senate is in session continuously.
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I very much doubt that people would have the energy to do the action items till end of the year.

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I understand that given the time constraint and for other reasons HR 3012 was less likely to be added to Payroll Tax cut bill but the point here is if HR 3012 gets added as a Rider to a popular bill like Payroll Tax cut extension or an important bill like an appropriation bill then it is less likely to be effectively filibustered (although riders are generally added to avoid Veto which was never a risk here).



So if nothing happens in the Senate on HR 3012, then by end of the year we can hope and try for Omnibus spending bill.

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I very much doubt that people would have the energy to do the action items till end of the year.
We are so use to it, we can do it untill we retire
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Ofcourse I didn't mean to say that and I hope it would be done by end of March, but just in-case...

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Please don't say that we have to wait till the end of the year. I am hoping that we will be done with this bill by the end of March since from Feb end to March end senate is in session continuously.
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I very much doubt that people would have the energy to do the action items till end of the year.
Bro, we need to move on to Eb2 if nothing happens. I don't think I have the patience anymore. Yes or No for Hr3012 will help.

Atleast we will know what to do in case if this does not pass. I would rather have a yes/no answer than uncertainity.

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Bro, we need to move on to Eb2 if nothing happens. I don't think I have the patience anymore. Yes or No for Hr3012 will help.

Atleast we will know what to do in case if this does not pass. I would rather have a yes/no answer than uncertainity.

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I can't agree more!! Either YES or NO rather than UNKNOWN would really help.
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Bro, we need to move on to Eb2 if nothing happens. I don't think I have the patience anymore. Yes or No for Hr3012 will help.

Atleast we will know what to do in case if this does not pass. I would rather have a yes/no answer than uncertainity.

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Eb3 needs to move forward. This wait is unaccptable. Even with hr3012 there will be wait for eb3. We have been discussing moving eb3 most retrogressed folks if eb2 gets current. Spillovers from eb2 must benefit benefit folks in eb3 on first in first out basis. This will be fair.
Hang in there guys. We need to have patience and persistence. We will together get a passed hr3012 and faster movement of dates for most backlogged folks who are victims of the unfair system that discriminates on country of birth.
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We have been discussing moving eb3 most retrogressed folks if eb2 gets current. Spillovers from eb2 must benefit benefit folks in eb3 on first in first out basis. This will be fair.
Thanks pappu for taking this initiative.

Also if IV help us in EB3 to EB2 porting, it will also help the backlogged people. If DOL simply process the application in 90 days (including audit) for second PERM application that itself hepls EB3 backlogg a lot. I am sure this change does not require congressional approval.
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