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Senators want to listen how the immigration helps the economy and the housing market. They don't care about the waiting time.

When the economy is hurting so bad why are they bothered about your waiting times. How does Immigration help them. That is what the focus should be.
We should not talk about housing IMHO
Immigrants on H1B visa or EAD can buy houses. I have so many friends who bought houses on H1B. Only people who wanted to go back or save money chose to rent. I think this is wrong information spread that all immigrants will buy houses. Only a small percentage with good jobs do not buy houses. The other kind of people who may not be buying houses are consultants. They cannot buy house because they have to constantly move around and change cities. So greencard will help these consultants to get better jobs and settle in one place.
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I seriously think 1000's are needed in D.C. with 'Down with Grasseley' and 'Down with Discrimination' posters..
Just thousand out of half million?

That is not even 1%. It sucks for us.
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I think the reality is not correctly conveyed. Here are my views.


• Since 2001 US is granting 65000-H1B visa for skilled and high skilled applicants which indicates that there is a potential demand sine 2001.

• When H1B is applied there is no country specific quota and it is first come first served basis along with other conditions. (Qualification, job demand etc.). Hence it is not based on DIVERSITY.

• Only people who come in H1B (or L1) can apply for GC. Hence it should not be based on DIVERSITY.

• Every year 140000 GC’s are allowed. So even if all the 65000 H1B’s apply there should not be any backlog.

• By putting a country limit in GC, an artificial queue is created. This creates as a pool of qualified, bonded, desperate labor force working for the betterment of US.

• HR3012 bill will remove the block/backlog and will make the system function correctly.

We need to convey this to every senator and in media.
They should not count derivatives in the visa count. They do not count in many other categories like diversity, asylum.....
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Issues broadcasted on 60 minutes show are very thorough and they stick it up with bold questions with senators and congressman. I wrote to them to try to cover this topic but have not heard anything back. Now after Pres Obama's announcement last week, I am certain they are working on an episode on 'immigration'. I urge top IV members to contact them before we miss their airing if it is being worked on:

60 Minutes Mailbag
I agree this is a excellent thought and will surely bring our issue in the national limelight..I think there should be simultaneous rallies in every state capital if possible at the same time as the DC rally, People should carry literature or placards which say how may years we have been waiting patiently..Its now or never once the election is over all these issues will again take a back seat until the next election come around...can we afford to wait 4 more years just get the attention of the law makers?
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This forum house seems to be an ant house with the queen butchered. The leaders are MIA and everyone is scrambling in panic, don’t do this or do that, we are passed this and we already tried that. or it could also be seen as a "day care center" where every kid is crying to get attention???? just a thought. I mean despite repeated reminder from IV core group about staying calm and focussing on current action items it is ridiculous that grown ups like you and me are still crying and feeling left out like babies??? Did you and me introduce this bill??? If there is action needed it will be told loud and clear by the core group.
Can we PLEASE have one strong direction?

WE all want to help…donate- yes. Done that! Now what’s next?

You suggest thousands in rally to senator? Let’s do it. Is everyone up for this next big move? When? Day? Time?
Can someone also communicate literature we need to take with us? Pre-meet?
Dont misunderstand me. I am not saying that we "dont need any action". What I am saying is that we need to be patient and wait for instructions rather than create confusion and panic. Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group.
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Dont misunderstand me. I am not saying that we "dont need any action". What I am saying is that we need to be patient and wait for instructions rather than create confusion and panic. Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group.
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You guys keep busy in understanding & misunderstanding & clarifying...
thomachan72 is right.Rohit May I request you to update your profile.Thanks!
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This is a start.

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Immigration is red hot button issue, especially since last Friday. We need to seize this moment and reach out to all the people who either directly or indirectly influence or benefit from this bill.

Here's my suggestion

1. Contact any person in the administration related to immigration or Asian American spokesperson, you get the idea. Let them know about the pending senate bill and the president should pressures the Senate leaders to bring the bill to the floor. This will show the world that he is not about vote bank. He can silence the critics from last week announcement. It will benefit him in his standing with the independent voters.

2. We need to reach out to the GOP Senate leadership. To them we need to tell with passing the senate bill, they can show that they are for immigration, and for legal immigration.

3. We need to reach out to various media outlets. We need to bring to the attention of the media outlet that there is a immigration bill for legal immigration which has been buried in the senate committee for the past six months. Let media outlet challenge the GOP Senators/Representative that, when they say 'last weeks action of president was not constitutional or bypassing the congress was not good". And the house passed the bill in bipartisan in Nov. 2011.

4. We need to highlight to as many people as possible, media outlet, youtube, etc... Talk about the positive, how the 300,000 indian can buy house, refrigerator, etc.. contribute the economy.

Bottom line we need to show them, what is it in for them. We need to take the horse to the water and show them.
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Dont misunderstand me. I am not saying that we "dont need any action". What I am saying is that we need to be patient and wait for instructions rather than create confusion and panic. Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group.
"Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group." why?


Below text is from Forbes. Worth reading. I think IV has become another Microsoft. Lots of past accomplishments. But the creative spark is long gone.

"Microsoft now seems to be a company that has long since run off the cliff but, with legs spinning for all they are worth, doesn’t know yet that it is ready to drop. Yet drop it most certainly will.

To understand how this happens, take a look at the work of Arnold J. Toynbee, a historian who studied the rise and fall of civilizations. He argued that a civilization flourishes when it motivates insiders and attracts outsiders with its creative dynamism and culture. The civilization breaks down when its leadership loses this creative capacity and gives way to, or transforms itself into, a dominant minority. When this happens, the driver of the civilization becomes control, not attraction. And it’s precisely this switch from attraction to control that is the source of the breakdown. Interestingly, Toynbee says that the consequences may not be immediately apparent. A civilization can keep up momentum because the controls it puts in place generate some short-term efficiency. But eventually it will run its course and collapse, because no amount of control can replace the loss of collective creativity."
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Dont misunderstand me. I am not saying that we "dont need any action". What I am saying is that we need to be patient and wait for instructions rather than create confusion and panic. Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group.
Thomachan72,
We need some instruction from IV leadership on next moves, apart from just asking to contribute, which we are doing anyways. We know more is needed, but that shouldnt stop them from giving updates. Please let us know if something is being worked on, or if we are just waiting and waiting.
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Smile Action I took today

That's a great idea. I did contact couple of radio shows with concerns. They have been reporting on the Deffered Action for Illegal immigrants and gathering public and expert's views on it, and now is the time we speak up about us. Here's what I wrote to them, you guys can modify it the way you like but I wanted to keep it as short as possible. If everyone from IV contact them with similar message, our voices will be heard:

"Heard your story on president Obama passing stop gap measure for thousands of illegeal young immigrants. Everyone would agree to the statement that this nation needs an Immigration reform, but it would be unfair to legal immigrants like myself and others who has been waiting for years to get a green card to be neglected like this. We entered in this country legally, received advanced degree from US schools, obeyed all laws, paid all taxes on time, and contributed to country's economic growth, still some of us would have to wait for more than 30 years to get an employment based green card. There is a serious back log for immigrants from countries like India and China, and the wait time is only getting longer. This causes hardship for these people and their family and many of them are going back to other countries or their country of origin. This is a major loss to this country as there is already shortage of enough high-skilled workers in STEM related industries.

We too need relief and there are already 10s of bills pending in Congress that would greatly reduce the wait time, HR 3012 being one of them which is already passed in house with overwhelming bipartisan support. But, to get anything passed in congress in an election year is everyone's DREAM. President Obama, how about signing another executive order? This time for legal immigrants."

There was a story yesterday (06/21) on Marketplace evening show at NPR: Contact : American Public Media

Another one on Morning Edition today (06/22): Contact: Help Center

Please write to them to express your opinions and concerns. We will be heard if we are loud.

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Immigration is red hot button issue, especially since last Friday. We need to seize this moment and reach out to all the people who either directly or indirectly influence or benefit from this bill.

Here's my suggestion

1. Contact any person in the administration related to immigration or Asian American spokesperson, you get the idea. Let them know about the pending senate bill and the president should pressures the Senate leaders to bring the bill to the floor. This will show the world that he is not about vote bank. He can silence the critics from last week announcement. It will benefit him in his standing with the independent voters.

2. We need to reach out to the GOP Senate leadership. To them we need to tell with passing the senate bill, they can show that they are for immigration, and for legal immigration.

3. We need to reach out to various media outlets. We need to bring to the attention of the media outlet that there is a immigration bill for legal immigration which has been buried in the senate committee for the past six months. Let media outlet challenge the GOP Senators/Representative that, when they say 'last weeks action of president was not constitutional or bypassing the congress was not good". And the house passed the bill in bipartisan in Nov. 2011.


4. We need to highlight to as many people as possible, media outlet, youtube, etc... Talk about the positive, how the 300,000 indian can buy house, refrigerator, etc.. contribute the economy.

Bottom line we need to show them, what is it in for them. We need to take the horse to the water and show them.
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Thumbs up DREAM of a Legal Immigrant

I made the title of my message as "DREAM of Legal Immigrant" to make it more eye catching:

"Heard your story on president Obama passing stop gap measure for thousands of illegeal young immigrants. Everyone would agree to the statement that this nation needs an Immigration reform, but it would be unfair to legal immigrants like myself and others who has been waiting for years to get a green card to be neglected like this. We entered in this country legally, received advanced degree from US schools, obeyed all laws, paid all taxes on time, and contributed to country's economic growth, still some of us would have to wait for more than 30 years to get an employment based green card. There is a serious back log for immigrants from countries like India and China, and the wait time is only getting longer. This causes hardship for these people and their family and many of them are going back to other countries or their country of origin. This is a major loss to this country as there is already shortage of enough high-skilled workers in STEM related industries.

We too need relief and there are already 10s of bills pending in Congress that would greatly reduce the wait time, HR 3012 being one of them which is already passed in house with overwhelming bipartisan support. But, to get anything passed in congress in an election year is everyone's DREAM. President Obama, how about signing another executive order? This time for legal immigrants."

There was a story yesterday (06/21) on Marketplace evening show at NPR: Contact : American Public Media

Another one on Morning Edition today (06/22): Contact: Help Center

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"Please hold on and wait to hear from the core group." why?


Below text is from Forbes. Worth reading. I think IV has become another Microsoft. Lots of past accomplishments. But the creative spark is long gone.

"Microsoft now seems to be a company that has long since run off the cliff but, with legs spinning for all they are worth, doesn’t know yet that it is ready to drop. Yet drop it most certainly will.

To understand how this happens, take a look at the work of Arnold J. Toynbee, a historian who studied the rise and fall of civilizations. He argued that a civilization flourishes when it motivates insiders and attracts outsiders with its creative dynamism and culture. The civilization breaks down when its leadership loses this creative capacity and gives way to, or transforms itself into, a dominant minority. When this happens, the driver of the civilization becomes control, not attraction. And it’s precisely this switch from attraction to control that is the source of the breakdown. Interestingly, Toynbee says that the consequences may not be immediately apparent. A civilization can keep up momentum because the controls it puts in place generate some short-term efficiency. But eventually it will run its course and collapse, because no amount of control can replace the loss of collective creativity."

your civilization examples are more relevant to Current USA than IV I think.

think about this..

Roman civilization---- People thought Romans forever dominate the world.
Then English ---- so much for sun never sets on english empire.
Now USA --- The richest and powerfull of all after the soviets fell.

IV is still in it's infancy... and need many of the people like you to pitch in and contribute, so that it will thrive.
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