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Got my employer and 2 other friends employers petition signed yesterday & today!
Three more scheduled for the friendly nudge at start of business Monday.
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Got my employer and 2 other friends employers petition signed yesterday & today!
Three more scheduled for the friendly nudge at start of business Monday.
Thanks. Please post your updates on two latest action items in the thread "action item: request your employer to sign the petion for supporting HR3012."
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Guys, this is what I have pulled out from the posts in this thread please add to it or remove from it and improve upon it

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Technically, HR3012 will not increase the number of visas already granted by the Congress - it'll remain at 140k.
  • HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors, nurses , hi-tech workers to get job mobility and go on to research new products, start new businesses and services , thus improving national economy.
  • will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the US national economy
  • will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve the national economy, (will also bolster the housing loans and banks here)
  • will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now renewing EAD every year, they will buy those cars that they are putting off , buy those gadgets, equipment, tools etc. improves overall consumer confidence and improves national economy
  • will make the best and brightest to be remain here in USA, rather than compete or start companies elsewhere other than USA, will improve nations jobs.
  • will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally thus improving local economy
  • will create more jobs when folks buy homes , improves the construction-building industry thus improves economy

HR3012 serves national interest


H.R.3012 does not impact the "american tech worker". If the issue is about more number of tech workers coming in here to USA HR3012 doesn’t increase the visa numbers. This bill is removing the country caps. When a professional is hired one is not hired on the basis of nationality but only on the basis of the skills. The current wait times for India and china are like 50 years which is totally unreasonable. Tech workers are not impacted with or without H.R.3012 because all these people will remain here in US and are working here on AOS status (adjustment of status/Employment Authorization) and eventually be American tech worker in a matter of 5 years or 50 years.


"Some have argued that providing green cards to highly skilled foreign nationals harms the job prospects of
Americans. However, that argument ignores that skilled scientists, researchers and professionals help create
more jobs and innovations. Moreover, such individuals are hired as part of the normal recruitment process,
complementing, not replacing, Americans. Another argument made is that the green card problem is not dire,
since many foreign nationals stay in the United States years after receiving a Ph.D. But foreign nationals with
Ph.D.s are more likely to work in academia and represent only about 13 percent of H-1B visa holders annually.
The 5-year stay rate for Indians earning Ph.D.s at U.S. universities in science and engineering declined from 89
percent for those who received a doctorate in the year 2000, to 79 percent for Indian recipients of Ph.D.s in 2004.
Even if Ph.D.s from India and China were staying in the U.S. at the same rate as before it would not be relevant to
the green card problems experienced by foreign nationals at the masters and undergraduate levels."


Also, against 'immigrant exploitation', there are a lot of labor laws and worker safety laws that safeguard not only the immigrant workers but all the American tech and non tech workers.

Also apart from the above,


"employment-based system was intended to create equal opportunity for all countries" - That is what is called Diversity- I humbly disagree- That is not what it was created for.


For that we have diversity visa. which gives equal opportunity for jobs from all countries, irrespective of their education or skill - barring countries that already have large populations here....so While Indians are barred from applying under Diversity- SriLankans and Nepalese are not.

For "diversity" Skill-based-immigrants are already being excluded from the "Diversity Visa". Why this double whammy? And, are there any country quotas in the diversity visa? Quite illogical

We are fighting a notion that "countries" are getting the benefit by sending its citizens here. In inida and china ther competition is fierce and only the best gets the chance to come US. How about the notion of a fair and just immigration system that doesn't discriminate based on national origin.
"Countries" are abstract. Individuals have life, feelings, etc. How to make ploicy/law maker and everyone understand?


• Every skilled immigrant saves money. The longer you are here the more money you save. By giving a person who stayed here longest a chance to file green card he can use his savings as investment in US. US needs investments in this economic times, win-win.

• If a person after working 15 years (60 credits) goes back then US would pay Social Security to that person after he retires. US Social Security goes outside as long as that person lives.

• Since 2001 US is granting 65000+ non immmigrant visas for skilled and high skilled applicants which indicates that there is a potential demand sine 2001.

• When employement visa is applied there is no country specific quota and it is first come first served basis along with other conditions. (Qualification, job demand etc.). Hence it is not based on DIVERSITY and dosent count spouses and childern.

• Only people who come in scarced Employment category can apply for GC. Hence it should not be based on DIVERSITY.

• Every year 140000 GC’s are allowed. So even if all the 65000+ apply there should not be any backlog.

• By putting a country limit in GC, an artificial queue is created. This creates as a pool of qualified, bonded, desperate labor force working for the betterment of US.

• HR3012 bill will remove the block/backlog and will make the system function correctly.


refrences:

http://www.nfap.com/pdf/NFAPPolicyBr...g.June2012.pdf
http://competeamerica.org/sites/defa...11%20FINAL.pdf
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Just contributed $100 for the cause
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 3BK61763G05720701.

Come on all of you , lets get together for our cause .We are responsible to end our own sufferings. Its now or never.

I just received an email from our company that they will sign the petition and already talked to 15 of my friends and some of them have the authority to sign and others are going to forward to their HR.

IV core, we cannot thank you enough.We SALUTE you.


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Just contributed $100 for the cause
Your transaction ID for this payment is: 3BK61763G05720701.

Come on all of you , lets get together for our cause .We are responsible to end our own sufferings. Its now or never.

I just received an email from our company that they will sign the petition and already talked to 15 of my friends and some of them have the authority to sign and others are going to forward to their HR.

IV core, we cannot thank you enough.We SALUTE you.


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Great Job IV. I hope I was part of this group instead of from the beginning.
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May the coming weeks be the most fruitful for all of us. I salute everyone @ IV for taking this up tirelessly.

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Your transaction ID for this payment is: 8R245737Y68466824.
Donation Amount: 100 USD

GO IV !!! Thanks to IV for working on this..
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Thumbs up Thank You IV.

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I just made a small donation/contribution of 100$ USD using paypal.

The transaction ID for this payment is: 0CH38677KX992123U.

Thanks for all your advocacy efforts.

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Made a small contribution of $200.

Your transaction ID for this payment is: 5KE12334DH731511U.

Also doing AI for the petition.
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Guys, this is what I have pulled out from the posts in this thread please add to it or remove from it and improve upon it
"barring countries that already have large populations here"
This is wrong.
Only the "oversubscribed" countries are barred... those exceeding 7% for that year
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Did you say [b]5000?????????????[/B]

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Go IV! I am talking to my employer now!
$5000....seriously!!!
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