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Here is the latest update from lawyer's website on HR-3012. They recognize IV in the article below
ILW.COM - immigration news: Immigration Daily June 26, 2012
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After signing the letter in support of H.R. 3012 by mistake on behalf of my company, today I received a letter from TechNet saying this letter can only be signed by C-Level of the company and asked for the confirmation otherwise my company name will be removed from the list. I asked him to remove the company name from the list for now while I work with my HR to gain support. But in the second email from TechNet, he confirmed that my company is already in the list and supporting the bill.

That was nice to know. So all the guys out there, please check with technet, your company might already in the list of companies who is supporting the bill.
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I didnt receive it too. Checked my SPAM folder also.
Same here. My profile has the correct email ID. However no email received.
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Where are these guys now? They used to make lot of noise asking for updates, giving ideas and being an armchair critics. Have they gone into hiding. Each one of you please update on the forum if you contributed this month to IV and your employer signed the petition. IV will verify it. Let us see people who make noise are not just paper tigers.

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I seriously think 1000's are needed in D.C. with 'Down with Grasseley' and 'Down with Discrimination' posters..
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I agree this is a excellent thought and will surely bring our issue in the national limelight..I think there should be simultaneous rallies in every state capital if possible at the same time as the DC rally, People should carry literature or placards which say how may years we have been waiting patiently..Its now or never once the election is over all these issues will again take a back seat until the next election come around...can we afford to wait 4 more years just get the attention of the law makers?
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We need a loud voice to get through those deaf ears.
Flower campaign or halwa campaign doesn't matter.. but we need something and it should be now..
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I saw this in this thread..

''We need a loud voice to get through those deaf ears''

Two suggestions.. could be too foolish

RING THE BELL-- Organize to do pooja to get GC in temple, church ...on a particular date with publicity

Send cards/letters to senators to reach before July 4th asking for independence (GC), as we are all in Bonded Employment (EB)
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Pappu,
I just don't understand why IV is not planning to take some action which gets noticed and bring this issue to the front burner exposing the senator who is blocking it. Lets start a flower campaign, media will notice it and then flood the youtube with home made video addressing how removing country quota is "Actually helping American Interest" and share of facebook and twitter again and again.
Everytime someone proposes this , IV says NO NO ..why ???? what is there to loose.
HR3012 is blocked and with all this efforts worst case it will remain the same. Also instead of us proposing this idea, IV should be planning and executing this way before.
Even grass is under the shoes and never get noticed till it gets into the eye. This grass root community also needs to get into the eyes to be noticed.
This is the best time EB2 is unavailable, more people will join the campaign.

Not that I don't respect and admire the efforts of IV but seems its loosing the steam.
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Where are these guys now? They used to make lot of noise asking for updates, giving ideas and being an armchair critics. Have they gone into hiding. Each one of you please update on the forum if you contributed this month to IV and your employer signed the petition. IV will verify it. Let us see people who make noise are not just paper tigers.
I am very much here and sent the letter to my HR and waiting to hear from them to sign the petition. The immature and childish personalities like yours always think why people get irritated from us , with your last post this should very much be clear to you.

Please do everyone a favor ....Grow up and act like one. You will not hear anymore replies from me no matter what you say so please don't bother.
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Technically, HR3012 will not increase the number of visas already granted by the Congress - it'll remain at 140k.
HR3012 will encourage innovation by liberating the scientists, doctors, nurses , hi-tech workers to get job mobility and go on to research new products, start new businesses and services , thus improving national economy.
will help to create new enterprises and hire more people to help grow the US national economy
will liberate them to move on and buy houses , thus create more jobs and improve the national economy, (will also bolster the housing loans and banks here)
will help them spend more with the greater sense of security than they will have now renewing EAD every year, they will buy those cars that they are putting off , buy those gadgets, equipment, tools etc. improves overall consumer confidence and improves national economy
will make the best and brightest to be remain here in USA, rather than compete or start companies elsewhere other than USA, will improve nations jobs.
will also reduce outsourcing as some of them will go on and start training locally thus improving local economy
will create more jobs when folks buy homes , improves the construction-building industry thus improves economy

HR3012 serves national interest


H.R.3012 does not impact the "american tech worker". If the issue is about more number of tech workers coming in here to USA HR3012 doesn’t increase the visa numbers. This bill is removing the country caps. When a professional is hired one is not hired on the basis of nationality but only on the basis of the skills. The current wait times for India and china are like 50 years which is totally unreasonable. Tech workers are not impacted with or without H.R.3012 because all these people will remain here in US and are working here on AOS status (adjustment of status/Employment Authorization) and eventually be American tech worker in a matter of 5 years or 50 years.


"Some have argued that providing green cards to highly skilled foreign nationals harms the job prospects of
Americans. However, that argument ignores that skilled scientists, researchers and professionals help create
more jobs and innovations. Moreover, such individuals are hired as part of the normal recruitment process,
complementing, not replacing, Americans. Another argument made is that the green card problem is not dire,
since many foreign nationals stay in the United States years after receiving a Ph.D. But foreign nationals with
Ph.D.s are more likely to work in academia and represent only about 13 percent of H-1B visa holders annually.
The 5-year stay rate for Indians earning Ph.D.s at U.S. universities in science and engineering declined from 89
percent for those who received a doctorate in the year 2000, to 79 percent for Indian recipients of Ph.D.s in 2004.
Even if Ph.D.s from India and China were staying in the U.S. at the same rate as before it would not be relevant to
the green card problems experienced by foreign nationals at the masters and undergraduate levels."


Also, against 'immigrant exploitation', there are a lot of labor laws and worker safety laws that safeguard not only the immigrant workers but all the American tech and non tech workers.

Also apart from the above,


"employment-based system was intended to create equal opportunity for all countries" - That is what is called Diversity- I humbly disagree- That is not what it was created for.


For that we have diversity visa. which gives equal opportunity for jobs from all countries, irrespective of their education or skill - oversubscribed countries are barred... those exceeding 7% for that year....so While Indians are barred from applying under Diversity- SriLankans and Nepalese are not.

For "diversity" Skill-based-immigrants are already being excluded from the "Diversity Visa". Why this double whammy? And, are there any country quotas in the diversity visa? Quite illogical

We are fighting a notion that "countries" are getting the benefit by sending its citizens here. In inida and china ther competition is fierce and only the best gets the chance to come US. How about the notion of a fair and just immigration system that doesn't discriminate based on national origin.
"Countries" are abstract. Individuals have life, feelings, etc. How to make ploicy/law maker and everyone understand?


• Every skilled immigrant saves money. The longer you are here the more money you save. By giving a person who stayed here longest a chance to file green card he can use his savings as investment in US. US needs investments in this economic times, win-win.

• If a person after working 15 years (60 credits) goes back then US would pay Social Security to that person after he retires. US Social Security goes outside as long as that person lives.

• Since 2001 US is granting 65000+ non immmigrant visas for skilled and high skilled applicants which indicates that there is a potential demand sine 2001.

• When employement visa is applied there is no country specific quota and it is first come first served basis along with other conditions. (Qualification, job demand etc.). Hence it is not based on DIVERSITY and dosent count spouses and childern.

• Only people who come in scarced Employment category can apply for GC. Hence it should not be based on DIVERSITY.

• Every year 140000 GC’s are allowed. So even if all the 65000+ apply there should not be any backlog.

• By putting a country limit in GC, an artificial queue is created. This creates as a pool of qualified, bonded, desperate labor force working for the betterment of US.

• HR3012 bill will remove the block/backlog and will make the system function correctly.


refrences:

http://www.nfap.com/pdf/NFAPPolicyBr...g.June2012.pdf
http://competeamerica.org/sites/defa...11%20FINAL.pdf
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Guys, please avoid blaming others and focus on the sole objective here. Both of you would be benefited if 3012 is passed. So no more blame game guys.


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I am very much here and sent the letter to my HR and waiting to hear from them to sign the petition. The immature and childish personalities like yours always think why people get irritated from us , with your last post this should very much be clear to you.

Please do everyone a favor ....Grow up and act like one. You will not hear anymore replies from me no matter what you say so please don't bother.
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