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Is there any other fix than HR3012 for EB3I folks?
Like USCIS autometically port the EB3 to EB2 if file is pending more than 5 years?
I think, recapturing of unused visa numbers can help.
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Thumbs up EB3-to-EB2 upgrade. I agree

Ability to upgrade from EB3 to EB2 by filing a form and paying a fee (which can be used for training of Americans just like the fee they have for H1) for PDs older than 5 years (5 yrs because EB2 needs minimum of 5 yrs of Experience without Masters) would be extremely helpful to alleviate the pain EB3 has been going through.

I may be wrong but I believe this would be an administrative change and we may bypass congress altogether on this. Even if it needs to go to congress it may get more support due to the contribution that goes to the "Training Fund" for Americans. Also we will get support from EB3-ROW but EB2 may not like this

I tend to believe that racism is at the heart of Grassley's opposition even though he does not say so, as he is not as upfront as Steve King. After all HR 3012 helps Mexico, Philippines, China & India. All of these are Non-White countries. EB3-to-EB2 upgrade crosses race boundaries hence the racist elements in Congress won't object to this as they would do for HR 3012.

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Is there any other fix than HR3012 for EB3I folks?
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Default We should be given Citizenship itself

We have waited more number of years than the ones who are getting the green cards in 3-5 years after they come to the US. We are here for 15-20 years. We should be given citizenship directly. What do you think?
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Key Republican senators sign up to Irish E3 visa bill | Irish News | IrishCentral

The addition of the two Republican Senators would move the numbers of senators in favor of the bill to a definite 58 just two short of a filibuster proof majority.

Not Sure if this is about S.1983 or just S.2005.
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Key Republican senators sign up to Irish E3 visa bill | Irish News | IrishCentral

The addition of the two Republican Senators would move the numbers of senators in favor of the bill to a definite 58 just two short of a filibuster proof majority.

Not Sure if this is about S.1983 or just S.2005.
What about the jewish E3 visa? I'm sure more country specific visa bills will pop up.
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Meanwhile Irish Central understands that Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa. who has been opposed to the bill, has softened his stance and is now open to negotiation with Senator Brown and Democrats.
The great irony would be E3 passes without HR 3012
I would like to see E3+HR3012 pass rather than having no action on HR3012 at all, which seems more likely the case.
Under the pressure of reaching the mark of 60 within a week or so, Grassley has softened his stand on E3. He seems to have no such pressure when it comes to HR3012

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What about the jewish E3 visa? I'm sure more country specific visa bills will pop up.
There is no Israeli E-3 Visa Bill.

The Bill benefiting Israelis concerns the E-2 category, which is a NONIMMIGRANT TRADERS AND INVESTORS visa.
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We have waited more number of years than the ones who are getting the green cards in 3-5 years after they come to the US. We are here for 15-20 years. We should be given citizenship directly. What do you think?
Yes you are correct. I started few threads in IV related to that. But unfortunately, no one is interested in those type of ideas.
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Yes you are correct. I started few threads in IV related to that. But unfortunately, no one is interested in those type of ideas.
Ideas are good but these are far fetched dreams.

The long pending wait on HR 3012, which passed with overwhelming support in the house and is lagging in the senate tells us that.
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Direct Citizenship is just too much to ask. Even CIR proposals didn't bypass to give citizenship! I think even small measures like EB2 upgrade will make considerable difference.

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Yes you are correct. I started few threads in IV related to that. But unfortunately, no one is interested in those type of ideas.
If someone thinks this is a good idea, more needs to be done than starting new threads. That someone needs to take time off and meet many lawmakers many times himself in DC and see the support. Then report it here to get more people interested. Contribute many thousands of his own funds to it and lead the way in lobbying. Every day there is one new person suggesting a new idea they think will convert water into gasoline and wants someone else to work for them. See http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/fo...ml#post3255292 (President Obama Sends Startup America Legislative Agenda to Congress)
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/fo...ml#post3261742 (EB3-I Pedictions if H.R. 3012 passed)

We need to stop being VPs and Managers of ideas and for once be actual coders of our brillant ideas.
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Direct Citizenship is just too much to ask. Even CIR proposals didn't bypass to give citizenship! I think even small measures like EB2 upgrade will make considerable difference.
How about upgrading everyone to EB1. Why just EB2?
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Ability to upgrade from EB3 to EB2 by filing a form and paying a fee (which can be used for training of Americans just like the fee they have for H1) for PDs older than 5 years (5 yrs because EB2 needs minimum of 5 yrs of Experience without Masters) would be extremely helpful to alleviate the pain EB3 has been going through.

I may be wrong but I believe this would be an administrative change and we may bypass congress altogether on this. Even if it needs to go to congress it may get more support due to the contribution that goes to the "Training Fund" for Americans. Also we will get support from EB3-ROW but EB2 may not like this

I tend to believe that racism is at the heart of Grassley's opposition even though he does not say so, as he is not as upfront as Steve King. After all HR 3012 helps Mexico, Philippines, China & India. All of these are Non-White countries. EB3-to-EB2 upgrade crosses race boundaries hence the racist elements in Congress won't object to this as they would do for HR 3012.
You are forgetting that EB2-India would not support this.. Some of them were posting messages on these boards protesting that EB3 porting to EB2 is allowed at all.. We will see the same reaction to this proposal from them as we are seeing from ROW guys now..
Who wants to see their advantage taken away ?
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Now that senate has lifted the hold, what is the current situation for EB3 India?
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Now that senate has lifted the hold, what is the current situation for EB3 India?
Situation for EB3 India is same as it was before. Lifting the hold does not mean bill has passed.

Let us not count chickens before they are hatched. The next step is participating in action items and getting the bill passed. We need everyone's time and attention to accomplish that. Let us not get distracted.
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