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Will you be able to share next steps in order to push forward for H.R. 3012? Do we know when this bill can be brought into the Senate floor?

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Will you be able to share next steps in order to push forward for H.R. 3012? Do we know when this bill can be brought into the Senate floor?

Thanks!
This is the update we can share at this time that is now public. It is from another source.

POLITICO Morning Tech - POLITICO.com

COMPROMISE NEARS ON VISA BILL -- “Negotiators are close to reaching a deal on legislation that would repeal the per-country limit on green cards for high-skilled workers. A deal on the bill would be a rare moment of congressional harmony on the hot-button issue of immigration — and could spark movement on other narrow immigration and visa issues the tech sector cares about, immigration policy experts say,” reports Michelle Quinn, who has more here, for Pros: http://politico.pro/KHmlrZ
https://www.politicopro.com/go/?id=12484
“It’s going to be a test,” said Aman Kapoor, founder and president of Immigration Voice. “Are we ready for an immigration debate, whether it's high skilled or low skilled?”

Compromise nears on visa bill

By Michelle Quinn

6/29/12 5:31 AM EDT
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Thanks for providing this useful update Pappu. It is consistent with what IV community has been feeling from last week or so. There is a great deal of hope among the members and this article shows why.

You guys keep on doing what you have been and let us know if there is any Action Item we can help with.

Also, I guess it would be helpful for the members to know if the funding requirements are immediate or are long-term? In other words, I see lots of people signing up $25 - 6 month installments and I am not sure if a one time $150 contribution instead of that would be more helpful to achieve your goals at this time?

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POLITICO Morning Tech - POLITICO.com

COMPROMISE NEARS ON VISA BILL -- “Negotiators are close to reaching a deal on legislation that would repeal the per-country limit on green cards for high-skilled workers. A deal on the bill would be a rare moment of congressional harmony on the hot-button issue of immigration — and could spark movement on other narrow immigration and visa issues the tech sector cares about, immigration policy experts say,” reports Michelle Quinn, who has more here, for Pros: http://politico.pro/KHmlrZ
https://www.politicopro.com/go/?id=12484
“It’s going to be a test,” said Aman Kapoor, founder and president of Immigration Voice. “Are we ready for an immigration debate, whether it's high skilled or low skilled?”

Compromise nears on visa bill

By Michelle Quinn

6/29/12 5:31 AM EDT
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POLITICO Morning Tech - POLITICO.com

COMPROMISE NEARS ON VISA BILL -- “Negotiators are close to reaching a deal on legislation that would repeal the per-country limit on green cards for high-skilled workers. A deal on the bill would be a rare moment of congressional harmony on the hot-button issue of immigration — and could spark movement on other narrow immigration and visa issues the tech sector cares about, immigration policy experts say,” reports Michelle Quinn, who has more here, for Pros: http://politico.pro/KHmlrZ
https://www.politicopro.com/go/?id=12484
“It’s going to be a test,” said Aman Kapoor, founder and president of Immigration Voice. “Are we ready for an immigration debate, whether it's high skilled or low skilled?”

Compromise nears on visa bill

By Michelle Quinn

6/29/12 5:31 AM EDT
That's great update! Does anybody has access to the full text and share a summary of the whole article?
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Thought of getting minimum access to pro just to read the article...

Politico is pretty cheap... it costs only $1,495 to $2,500 a year for the first topic and $1,000 for each subsequent topic. Thanks Politico.
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The two items most likely to wreak havoc in the system and negatively impact employees and employers is the one allowing DOL to hold off on approving an LCA if it wants to first investigate the underlying facts rather than audit after the fact. I'm sure many of you have wanted to premium process a case over the years because you were in a hurry. But you can't take advantage of premium processing or H-1B portability in order to leave a bad employer and go to a new one if you can't get to the point where your new employer can file an I-129. Your new employer will be annoyed by the delay, but it's usually the H-1B visa holder that suffers the most when cases are delayed. If you feel like waiting months on the DOL to approve the LCA is acceptable, then you probably won't care. As most of my clients are doctors and as they are typically the ones calling the shots in the H-1B process, I can tell you that they are going to be pretty upset when we tell them we can no longer assure them of fast processing on their cases.

The other provision that really scares me is the section that says "A determination by the Secretary under this clause shall not be subject to judicial review." That means no interference by pesky judges interested in making sure the law is followed. Over the past several years we've seen one instance after another where anti-immigrant members of Congress have slipped in this kind of language in to bills and it is never good news. Ask yourselves why Grassley would insist on language insulating DOL from oversight?

I tend to believe most people loudly supporting this deal are trying to convince themselves that the Grassley language is actually good rather than what it is - the pound of flesh demanded by the anti-immigrant Grassley. The only thing people should be asking is whether the price is worth it. Maybe it is. But don't delude yourselves and listen to those who made this deal and are now trying to convince you the language is benign and will only hurt the bad actors. It might get you your green card a little faster, but you're condemning those who come after you to a lot of misery.
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With all due respect, I do not agree with you. Please look at my profile, I have been standing in line from past 8 years and I need to be in the line for another 7 more years to get my GC. In total, it is going to be 15 years atleast to get my turn. Is this a 'LITTLE' longer for you ??? then I would say if LCA takes few more months to get approved, that is absolutely fine. Sorry, I'm not with you.

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The two items most likely to wreak havoc in the system and negatively impact employees and employers is the one allowing DOL to hold off on approving an LCA if it wants to first investigate the underlying facts rather than audit after the fact. I'm sure many of you have wanted to premium process a case over the years because you were in a hurry. But you can't take advantage of premium processing or H-1B portability in order to leave a bad employer and go to a new one if you can't get to the point where your new employer can file an I-129. Your new employer will be annoyed by the delay, but it's usually the H-1B visa holder that suffers the most when cases are delayed. If you feel like waiting months on the DOL to approve the LCA is acceptable, then you probably won't care. As most of my clients are doctors and as they are typically the ones calling the shots in the H-1B process, I can tell you that they are going to be pretty upset when we tell them we can no longer assure them of fast processing on their cases.

The other provision that really scares me is the section that says "A determination by the Secretary under this clause shall not be subject to judicial review." That means no interference by pesky judges interested in making sure the law is followed. Over the past several years we've seen one instance after another where anti-immigrant members of Congress have slipped in this kind of language in to bills and it is never good news. Ask yourselves why Grassley would insist on language insulating DOL from oversight?

I tend to believe most people loudly supporting this deal are trying to convince themselves that the Grassley language is actually good rather than what it is - the pound of flesh demanded by the anti-immigrant Grassley. The only thing people should be asking is whether the price is worth it. Maybe it is. But don't delude yourselves and listen to those who made this deal and are now trying to convince you the language is benign and will only hurt the bad actors. It might get you your green card a little faster, but you're condemning those who come after you to a lot of misery.
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The two items most likely to wreak havoc in the system and negatively impact employees and employers is the one allowing DOL to hold off on approving an LCA if it wants to first investigate the underlying facts rather than audit after the fact. I'm sure many of you have wanted to premium process a case over the years because you were in a hurry. But you can't take advantage of premium processing or H-1B portability in order to leave a bad employer and go to a new one if you can't get to the point where your new employer can file an I-129. Your new employer will be annoyed by the delay, but it's usually the H-1B visa holder that suffers the most when cases are delayed. If you feel like waiting months on the DOL to approve the LCA is acceptable, then you probably won't care. As most of my clients are doctors and as they are typically the ones calling the shots in the H-1B process, I can tell you that they are going to be pretty upset when we tell them we can no longer assure them of fast processing on their cases.

The other provision that really scares me is the section that says "A determination by the Secretary under this clause shall not be subject to judicial review." That means no interference by pesky judges interested in making sure the law is followed. Over the past several years we've seen one instance after another where anti-immigrant members of Congress have slipped in this kind of language in to bills and it is never good news. Ask yourselves why Grassley would insist on language insulating DOL from oversight?

I tend to believe most people loudly supporting this deal are trying to convince themselves that the Grassley language is actually good rather than what it is - the pound of flesh demanded by the anti-immigrant Grassley. The only thing people should be asking is whether the price is worth it. Maybe it is. But don't delude yourselves and listen to those who made this deal and are now trying to convince you the language is benign and will only hurt the bad actors. It might get you your green card a little faster, but you're condemning those who come after you to a lot of misery.
Greg, I believe your post is well intentioned. But it misses the mark widely. The scenario you suggest is unlikely to happen if the so-called Doctors are dealing with reputable employers. DoL already has enough powers that it can use to wreck havoc if it so wishes to do now. It does not. So it is unlikely that it going to waste its precious resources beating up employers and then ending up with nothing to so show for it.

DoL is not anti-immigrant but it is pro-fairness for American citizens and there is nothing wrong with that. I would agree Sen. Grassley comes across as anti-immigrant but like they say there is no smoke with out fire. So obviously, Sen. Grassley is concerned about abuse in H-1B system. His heart I believe is in well-being of the US. His methods end up hurting high skilled immigrants but he will be redeem himself if he can help HR 3012 pass in Senate.
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Admins, please respond to Mr Siskind's scare tactics. If the ammendment as modified only applies to companies that have more than 100 employees and who have more than 15% on H1B, I don't know what he is scaring us off. Lot of small business have less than 100 employees. Large companies here either dont have 15% H1B or clean. Intended target of the ammendment is indian body shops, if those guys arent doing any thing illegal; they dont have to worry about the ammendment.
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With all due respect, I do not agree with you. Please look at my profile, I have been standing in line from past 8 years and I need to be in the line for another 7 more years to get my GC. In total, it is going to be 15 years atleast to get my turn. Is this a 'LITTLE' longer for you ??? then I would say if LCA takes few more months to get approved, that is absolutely fine. Sorry, I'm not with you.
I guess when you say 7 more years , you are being too optimistic.... I would say give it another 9 to 10 years with out Hr3012.
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The two items most likely to wreak havoc in the system and negatively impact employees and employers is the one allowing DOL to hold off on approving an LCA if it wants to first investigate the underlying facts rather than audit after the fact. I'm sure many of you have wanted to premium process a case over the years because you were in a hurry. But you can't take advantage of premium processing or H-1B portability in order to leave a bad employer and go to a new one if you can't get to the point where your new employer can file an I-129. Your new employer will be annoyed by the delay, but it's usually the H-1B visa holder that suffers the most when cases are delayed. If you feel like waiting months on the DOL to approve the LCA is acceptable, then you probably won't care. As most of my clients are doctors and as they are typically the ones calling the shots in the H-1B process, I can tell you that they are going to be pretty upset when we tell them we can no longer assure them of fast processing on their cases.

The other provision that really scares me is the section that says "A determination by the Secretary under this clause shall not be subject to judicial review." That means no interference by pesky judges interested in making sure the law is followed. Over the past several years we've seen one instance after another where anti-immigrant members of Congress have slipped in this kind of language in to bills and it is never good news. Ask yourselves why Grassley would insist on language insulating DOL from oversight?

I tend to believe most people loudly supporting this deal are trying to convince themselves that the Grassley language is actually good rather than what it is - the pound of flesh demanded by the anti-immigrant Grassley. The only thing people should be asking is whether the price is worth it. Maybe it is. But don't delude yourselves and listen to those who made this deal and are now trying to convince you the language is benign and will only hurt the bad actors. It might get you your green card a little faster, but you're condemning those who come after you to a lot of misery.
Mr Gregg, the little put down of yours of the techies is great. Your mention of doctors being the ones calling the shots for h1 is uncalled for. Do you even have access to the amendment being agreed upon? Aren't immigration lawyers are the ones who couldn't crack practising criminal law/business law? Isn't most of the work done by immigration lawyers can actually be done by para legals? What special expertise you bring to the table if not for the ones who have twisted cases? Could you do any thing about 221 G scenarios except completing forms and submitting them? Just scare people with what might happen if they don't come thru a lawyer? Why do you need 350$ to fill in a simple AP or EAD renewal form? Oooh, here is a big shot attorney, whose clients are doctors who call their own shots. Becaus they call their own shots , their lawyer becomes a big shot? Stupendous logic.
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