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Default LIVE: Markup of bill S.744 at Senate Judiciary committee starting 9th May, 2013

Starting 9:30am today, Senate Judiciary committee will undertake the markup of S.744 - Immigration Reform of 2013.

Here is a link to all 1st degree amendments filed -
S.744 Amendments

Here is the link to watch the mark-up live:
Integrated Senate Video Player

Bill markup is a crucial step towards passage of the bill in the Senate. There are many amendments for and against our provisions. So this process will be critical to determine which of our provisions will make into the final bill.
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H1B quota to be increased by 500%

350K per year as per the bill.
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How about Country Cap removal & Dependents removal?

will it be effective ASAP or FY15?
For that someone has to spend full 2-3 days to read

S.744 Amendments

Its lot of technical text.
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Why is law written in an english that common man cannot understand?
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SEC. 2306. Still has the effective date as one year from enactment of the act, unless I am misreading it.
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SEC. 2306. Still has the effective date as one year from enactment of the act, unless I am misreading it.
Things are moving too quickly, and we do not have the bandwidth to provide summary of each amendment. Please do your on research and provide summary of the amendments you can review.

Hatch #8 amendment has the provision to clarify the effective date as 1st Oct 2014.
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If they put a simple amendment of jailing and fining any employer caught employing an undocumented immigrant, it will solve most problem. It will be a huge deterrence to every employer. If license can be cancelled, can be jailed and fined........nobody will dare employ an undocumented. They will use E-Verify system before employing anyone.

But they will not do it. Why do you want to punish poor immigrants for illegal acts of employers? Close the loophole of cheap labor attraction and you will save billions of dollars and country, jobs will be secure!
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For that someone has to spend full 2-3 days to read

S.744 Amendments

Its lot of technical text.
Hatch's Amendment 8 proposes Country cap removal effective FY2014 ie 1st Oct 2013
I believe dependents cap removal and EB2/EB3 quota increase to each 40% is effective on bill enacting day ie ASAP only even in the original bill no amendment is necessary
If Hatch's 8 amendment is accepted pending EB3/EB2 guys are in good shape.
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this was not debated yesterday.

Does this mean this amendment is dead?
Can you not read online news to learn what is going on? Why you need spoon feed for everything?

Amendments to the bill will go on for next 1 or 2 weeks. Next markup session is on Tuesday when they will take up more amendments.
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Why is law written in an english that common man cannot understand?
Because most Law Makers are lawyers. So, mainly for Job Security in their profession
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This is going to be a mess.....

Per The Oh Law Firm

"Readers are aware that the House has its own 'Gange of 8' tthat has been working on the House version of CIR 2013, but this group of legislators have been experiencing 'divide' and have yet to come up with compromises. As one can easily understand it, the House version of immigration reform is likely more 'conservative' approach than the Senate version. There is an unconfirmed report that the earliest they could come up with compromise will be not before June 2013. Interestingly, June 2013 is the Senate's timeline to complete its CIR 2013 bill. Since the CIR legislation must pass both the Senate and the House before the Congress goes into 'summer recess' at the end of August, the Congress will have a tight schedule to achieve a bill successfully as it may have to go through the Senate-House conference committee process at the best. Accordingly, unless the House members are kept pressured by the immigration advocates, the chance of passage of this bill in 2013 and for that matter within a next few years will be 50:50 at this point. Remember our reminder: 'Piecemeal' and 'Delay' will be killers of CIR in 2013 and for a next few years. There has been developing an unfortunate division within the IT business community between the Silicon Valley giants and IT staffing/consulting business groups from their assessment that the employment-based immigration reform component of the Senate CIR 2013 bill represents the Silicon Valley giants compromise at the sacrifice of IT staffing and consulting businesses in that the bill is focused on immigration benefits for high-tech talents directly recruited by the Silicon Valley businesses and harsh on foreign workers recruited and supplied by staffing and consulting businesses by imposing enhanced restrictions on their H-1B and L-1 nonimmigrant visa opprtunities. The current Senate bill will thus seriously affect the Indian consulting businesses in the United States. Unless this conflict is resolved, there is a potential fall-out of the friction leading to staffing/consulting groups again joining the piece-meal advocates and opposing comprehensive immigration reform movement. This is something to watch closely for the next two or three months."
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I thought lawyers are only experts in law. Since when are they experts of politics? Why do people keep posting quotes from lawyers? Are they getting something in return to advertising them?
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5 year requirement still there...

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legi...313redline.pdf

Page 133 of the amended bill so far..

earned the qualifying graduate degree within during the 5 year period immediately prior to before the initial filing date of the petition under which the nonimmigrant is a beneficiary.
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Why is law written in an english that common man cannot understand?
Why do you write code in Java etc and not use plain English so it is easy for someone to read
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5 year requirement still there...

http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legi...313redline.pdf

Page 133 of the amended bill so far..

earned the qualifying graduate degree within during the 5 year period immediately prior to before the initial filing date of the petition under which the nonimmigrant is a beneficiary.
Really???? Why is it still there? I thought you took care of this one and STEM definition was fixed to include your application. Was it not?
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