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bpratap 07-09-2013 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tatyavinchoo (Post 3574600)
I am new to this forum, and confused as well. Though this amendment increases backlog, doesn't it also recommend more GCs to STEM grads by removing some other quotas? Many of us fall in this category and would benefit from this.

This is not an Amendment, its House Version of the High Skilled immigration bill, which will be part of House CIR Bill.

read the summary to get the perspective right. http://immigrationvoice.org/media/SK...ct_Summary.pdf

tatyavinchoo 07-09-2013 04:28 PM

I completely understand what IV is saying about backlog and totally appreciate the work they are doing. But from what I read in news as well as from the text of the act itself (http://issa.house.gov/skills/assets/ISSA_058_xml.pdf), the act looks very STEM grad friendly. Many desis (incl me) who are in EB2 fall in this category. So before I call/mail reps, I want to understand if I am not shooting myself in the foot by opposing this act.

bpratap 07-09-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tatyavinchoo (Post 3574608)
I completely understand what IV is saying about backlog and totally appreciate the work they are doing. But from what I read in news as well as from the text of the act itself (http://issa.house.gov/skills/assets/ISSA_058_xml.pdf), the act looks very STEM grad friendly. Many desis (incl me) who are in EB2 fall in this category. So before I call/mail reps, I want to understand if I am not shooting myself in the foot by opposing this act.

Senate Version of the Bill excludes
STEM Graduates from the GC Quota
Spouse and Dependents from GC Quota
All eligible (Current EB1) from GC Quota

House Bill give a new 50,000 visas where in Eligible STEM Graduates can apply, again you are at the mercy of Employer to apply.

which one would you pick ?

imh1b 07-09-2013 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tatyavinchoo (Post 3574608)
I completely understand what IV is saying about backlog and totally appreciate the work they are doing. But from what I read in news as well as from the text of the act itself (http://issa.house.gov/skills/assets/ISSA_058_xml.pdf), the act looks very STEM grad friendly. Many desis (incl me) who are in EB2 fall in this category. So before I call/mail reps, I want to understand if I am not shooting myself in the foot by opposing this act.

You are very new to this or you would have known the whole information about STEM. STEM is just a Ruse. Looks good from outside but bad from inside. If you were here last year in HR3012 you will know that STEM card is played to keep away all other pro-immigrant parts. And STEM WILL NEVER pass. It will be taken out in the end. I will have to write a long post to explain why it will never pass.

I suggest just do action item. This politics is very convoluted.

ronhira 07-09-2013 04:53 PM

history repeats itself..... the backlogs were created because h1 quota was increased for the year 1999 to 2005..... without increasing any green cards.....

back in 1990s, there were 65,000 h1 visas and 140,000 green cards
so 140,000/65,000 = 2.153 (1 primary applicant plus 1.1 dependents)
this is how the system was designed, to accommodate the primary applicants and dependents....

in year 2000 congress increased h1 visas to 195000 ....... once the h1 numbers came down..... in 2004 congress again increased h1 visas by 20000 for non profits or universities......

but throughout the period of time..... congress did not increase the green cards..... which is why there is the reason for the backlogs...... any increase in h1 visa is designed to create more backlogs & have more people wait longer

apshodh 07-09-2013 06:57 PM

action item done
 
Sent the emails
Friends, please continue doing the action item.

netbacker 07-09-2013 09:43 PM

Thank you for pointing this out.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ronhira (Post 3574611)
history repeats itself..... the backlogs were created because h1 quota was increased for the year 1999 to 2005..... without increasing any green cards.....

back in 1990s, there were 65,000 h1 visas and 140,000 green cards
so 140,000/65,000 = 2.153 (1 primary applicant plus 1.1 dependents)
this is how the system was designed, to accommodate the primary applicants and dependents....

in year 2000 congress increased h1 visas to 195000 ....... once the h1 numbers came down..... in 2004 congress again increased h1 visas by 20000 for non profits or universities......

but throughout the period of time..... congress did not increase the green cards..... which is why there is the reason for the backlogs...... any increase in h1 visa is designed to create more backlogs & have more people wait longer

This drives home the point of this debate. IV community needs to highlight this as much as we can.
Thank you again.

rupen 07-09-2013 09:58 PM

I would like to give suggestion to IV leadership here. If IV leadership has contact with various unions, can we go to unions and ask for their support. I think new union thinking is more green cards and less temporary visas. Companies obviously are looking for their own benefit and not wanting to increase green cards.

somberi 07-09-2013 10:13 PM

completed the action items from my Side!!

the whole immigration reform is becoming less and less about fairness and respect and more and more about getting votes by legalizing and getting taxes but not allowing those taxpayers to put down roots!!

helpisontheway 07-09-2013 10:18 PM

Done
 
Done

whiteStallion 07-09-2013 10:33 PM

Done AI

scrooge2011 07-09-2013 10:49 PM

AI done
 
Done


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