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Bad job is what our Indian government does. Have you tried contacting any department to get any approval without corruption? You and I came to USA because we find the system to be better.
Actually I have. I lived in india for 30 years of my life. But if that is the reason you think that DOL and USCIS are doing a good job then I do not know what to say. You cannot bribe to get your work done here but also your work is done too randomly and there could be infinite wait , undue rejection with insane reasons. You are comparing bad with the worse to make bad look good.
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Thumbs up Thank you!

Appreciate all the time and efforts IV has invested in order to get this legislative fix done. A big THANK YOU from whole EB community .
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Thumbs up Thanks IV

Thank you IV for pushing this legislative fix forward.

Given the stalemate in Congress and given President's willingness to do piecemeal fixes which are the other fixes we should be proposing to the Obama administration. My vote would be to let I140 approved employee's apply for I-485 even if there are no visa available. This will atleast make them eligible for AC21 and change jobs. What do you all think?
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Thanks for all the people who worked on this. Are there any action items from IV to make this rule happen?
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When we are trying to push for other fixes and legislative solutions people used to ask for H4 rule all the time. Now an update is given by DHS and people do not want this rule and want greencard instead?
It is strange. Because when we asked people to focus on greencard I used to get messages asking to focus on 'low hanging fruit'. There was also a survey conducted few years ago I have heard of tech folks on what fix they wanted. Majority wanted H4 rule for their spouses instead of choosing a greencard. So it looks like this has been the most awaited and sought after fix.
Ah .. the crowd responsible for killing eb3 reform .. our own ppl ....

What will the ability to work do for people who have not worked since many years and now have 1-2 kids to boot? They will now be seen stuffing grocery bags in indian stores. low hangers. IV, you too have a choice whether or not to be a low hanger
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Ah .. the crowd responsible for killing eb3 reform .. our own ppl ....
. IV, you too have a choice whether or not to be a low hanger
I agree, nobody cares for eb3.
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I don't agree with you. Even if 90% doesn't work still 10% want to work. They have every right to do this. They are waiting for long without job though many of them are well educated. I support IV on this.

But I don't support IV on holding a rally for EB2 guys only. One of the top IV guys mentioned this in .com just few days ago. It seems IV is always more concerned for EB2 than EB3 and that is the whole reason you see support from EB3 people for IV has waned over last few years.

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Ah .. the crowd responsible for killing eb3 reform .. our own ppl ....

What will the ability to work do for people who have not worked since many years and now have 1-2 kids to boot? They will now be seen stuffing grocery bags in indian stores. low hangers. IV, you too have a choice whether or not to be a low hanger
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Ah .. the crowd responsible for killing eb3 reform .. our own ppl ....

What will the ability to work do for people who have not worked since many years and now have 1-2 kids to boot? They will now be seen stuffing grocery bags in indian stores. low hangers. IV, you too have a choice whether or not to be a low hanger
There are so many opinions in online forums across the internet that its not worth the time to respond to the wackos. The reason being, there is no end to these opinions. But I cannot help but respond to this EB2 v/s EB3 ghost.

There is a difference between tragedy and conspiracy. Wait times in EB3 category is a tragedy. But some seem to imply that EB3 wait times is a conspiracy. Not only that, rather some seem to imply that its IV's conspiracy. If you know how things work on the ground, you would not formulate these opinions which are out of lack of knowledge, instead of first had experience of how things really work on the ground.

While some folks read forums to formulate their opinion, there is a real work that happens out of these forums. If you ever attended a lobby day, you would have known that we have advocated for fixes that help all categories in the same way. So you cannot be further from truth when you or anyone try to even remotely imply that IV only supports EB2. You are seeing ghosts when you imply that there is a conspiracy underway or somehow IV wants to hurt EB3. And when you see ghosts around you, there is nothing that one can do to remedy your thinking.

When working on Administrative and Legislative fixes we do not distinguish between EB1/2/3. While some people see the world through the prism of monthly visa bulletin, IV has never considered this dichotomy of EB/1/2/3 when advocating fixes. IV has always advocated for legislative and administrative fixes that will help all categories equally and fairly. And although we do not have time or the inclination to respond to outrageous theories, you can go around seeing ghosts for as long as you want.
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I don't agree with you. Even if 90% doesn't work still 10% want to work. They have every right to do this. They are waiting for long without job though many of them are well educated. I support IV on this.

But I don't support IV on holding a rally for EB2 guys only. One of the top IV guys mentioned this in .com just few days ago. It seems IV is always more concerned for EB2 than EB3 and that is the whole reason you see support from EB3 people for IV has waned over last few years.

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But I don't support IV on holding a rally for EB2 guys only
You have got to be kidding me. Where did to read that IV is holding rally for Eb2? Look, please use your intelligence when you read something on the "internet" where anyone can post anything that anyone wants. Try not to subscribe to this ideology of "I saw it on the internet so it HAS to be true"

This is news to me that IV is holding a rally for EB2, and I think I'm pretty much aware of what IV is doing. And who is this "one of the top IV guy" because I would like to meet this person. Like everyone else, you are free to do what you believe is best for you. But try not to look for wild conspiracy theories that are just not true. As I said earlier posts, there is a difference between tragedy and conspiracy.

But I am not going to argue or convince you about this EB2 v/s Eb3 ghosts. So keep doing whatever makes you happy.
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Default Unite for common cause

Every one of us are going to get greened at some point.Legislative fix is far fetched dream.since administration is actively pursuing for administrative fixes why don't we all unite for the common good of everyone and request USCIS to consider some proposals to relive us from backlogs. I will wait for others to chime in.
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Default Administrative fixes for reducing backlogs?

IMHO administration is testing waters with relatively no controversial fixes. If nothing materializes by august pressure will be on Our president to do some thing for illegal immigrants.We just need to grab this opportunity and work towards fulfilling our goals. Can administrator of this forum shed some light on what else can we propose for presidential review if legislation fails to pass by this fall? It's now or never from what I understand through media.While we work towards legislative fixes what is our back- up plan? As some one posted earlier a simple fix like concurrent filing of I140 &485 in absence of visa numbers may help a lot of people waiting in line and future EB community.On surface it appears simple but who knows how difficult it is to convince USCIS even asking them to consider. Can IV share what are the administrative fixes we can work on without getting backlash from our own community ?
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Aman, I have sent you a private message where I have mentioned about the web link on this rally.

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You have got to be kidding me. Where did to read that IV is holding rally for Eb2? Look, please use your intelligence when you read something on the "internet" where anyone can post anything that anyone wants. Try not to subscribe to this ideology of "I saw it on the internet so it HAS to be true"

This is news to me that IV is holding a rally for EB2, and I think I'm pretty much aware of what IV is doing. And who is this "one of the top IV guy" because I would like to meet this person. Like everyone else, you are free to do what you believe is best for you. But try not to look for wild conspiracy theories that are just not true. As I said earlier posts, there is a difference between tragedy and conspiracy.

But I am not going to argue or convince you about this EB2 v/s Eb3 ghosts. So keep doing whatever makes you happy.
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IMHO administration is testing waters with relatively no controversial fixes. If nothing materializes by august pressure will be on Our president to do some thing for illegal immigrants.We just need to grab this opportunity and work towards fulfilling our goals. Can administrator of this forum shed some light on what else can we propose for presidential review if legislation fails to pass by this fall? It's now or never from what I understand through media.While we work towards legislative fixes what is our back- up plan? As some one posted earlier a simple fix like concurrent filing of I140 &485 in absence of visa numbers may help a lot of people waiting in line and future EB community.On surface it appears simple but who knows how difficult it is to convince USCIS even asking them to consider. Can IV share what are the administrative fixes we can work on without getting backlash from our own community ?
I think there is no admin fix that will have no backlash from our own community. There are supporters and opposers for everything, people cannot unite for anything.
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Angry What about wastage of Visas ??

Forget for a moment about these administrative fixes for backlogs.
Wastage of Visas--This does not need any fix or new legislative law. Just implement existing rules.Why IV is keeping quite when existing rule is not implementing properly by DHS/DOS.
Why IV not paying attention about wastage of EB3 visas while DallaBlue and others crying for some collective action on this. We must collectively stop wastage of EB visas.
Need some guidance from IV gurus how to proceed on this.

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IMHO administration is testing waters with relatively no controversial fixes. If nothing materializes by august pressure will be on Our president to do some thing for illegal immigrants.We just need to grab this opportunity and work towards fulfilling our goals. Can administrator of this forum shed some light on what else can we propose for presidential review if legislation fails to pass by this fall? It's now or never from what I understand through media.While we work towards legislative fixes what is our back- up plan? As some one posted earlier a simple fix like concurrent filing of I140 &485 in absence of visa numbers may help a lot of people waiting in line and future EB community.On surface it appears simple but who knows how difficult it is to convince USCIS even asking them to consider. Can IV share what are the administrative fixes we can work on without getting backlash from our own community ?
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Suva dude you are fanning conspiracy theories only. You have some motive. Why did you send a private message and not post for everyone?

You think a senior member on a website is more credible than a junior member and you use it as evidence. Do you know a senior member is one that has made more posts. So this person could have just posted random things. It does not mean he is someone knowledgable. You should have at least known that since you are an IV member for many years. But how would you know that? You have never been part of any IV activity other than spending time on conspiracy theories and blaming everyone else around you because you do not have a greencard yet.
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