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Default So much noise

I have been to a couple of advocacy day events, never posted on the forum before because the quality of the conversation on an important matter has never been so poor.

All the noise about dependent exemption and green card recapture is just that - noise. The people asking for dependent exemption know that it is impossible. The main reason they are asking is the hope it will drown out more reasonable "asks" (in DC speak) like early filing of I-485 - which not co-incidentally the noise makers are completely silent about. Other reasons exist for the noise which I will not get into.

If you are wondering who the noisemakers are, all you have to do is figure out the losers with (say) the early I-485 fix (among our other asks). Immigration lawyers are an obvious suspect, hence the sight of them crawling out of the woodwork to opine on the dubious legality of the Dependent exemption - after not hearing a peep out of them on this matter in the last decade. Tech companies are another obvious suspect, we haven't heard any of them ask for anything other than more H1-B's, back door H1-B's, recapture and Dependent exemption.

Again, it is not a coincidence, that provisions which would benefit our community that the tech companies are making a noise about are unachievable "pie in the sky" asks.

You don't hear a peep about anything that is both achievable and would benefit us.

If you genuinely are on an H1 and want to see an improvement in your situation, you better hope and pray the dependent exemption and recapture noise does not drown out our more reasonable and achievable "asks" - which is exactly what the people that prey on us want.
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I have been to a couple of advocacy day events, never posted on the forum before because the quality of the conversation on an important matter has never been so poor.

All the noise about dependent exemption and green card recapture is just that - noise. The people asking for dependent exemption know that it is impossible. The main reason they are asking is the hope it will drown out more reasonable "asks" (in DC speak) like early filing of I-485 - which not co-incidentally the noise makers are completely silent about. Other reasons exist for the noise which I will not get into.

If you are wondering who the noisemakers are, all you have to do is figure out the losers with (say) the early I-485 fix (among our other asks). Immigration lawyers are an obvious suspect, hence the sight of them crawling out of the woodwork to opine on the dubious legality of the Dependent exemption - after not hearing a peep out of them on this matter in the last decade. Tech companies are another obvious suspect, we haven't heard any of them ask for anything other than more H1-B's, back door H1-B's, recapture and Dependent exemption.

Again, it is not a coincidence, that provisions which would benefit our community that the tech companies are making a noise about are unachievable "pie in the sky" asks.

You don't hear a peep about anything that is both achievable and would benefit us.

If you genuinely are on an H1 and want to see an improvement in your situation, you better hope and pray the dependent exemption and recapture noise does not drown out our more reasonable and achievable "asks" - which is exactly what the people that prey on us want.


Thank you for posting this. I couldn't have said it any better. Cannot thank you enough for putting in clear words. But don't hold your breath, the next guy asking "but why can't obama do recapture" is 52 seconds away. But the more dangerous guy who is only here to create negativity to poison the environment is only 18 seconds away.
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I have been to a couple of advocacy day events, never posted on the forum before because the quality of the conversation on an important matter has never been so poor.

All the noise about dependent exemption and green card recapture is just that - noise. The people asking for dependent exemption know that it is impossible. The main reason they are asking is the hope it will drown out more reasonable "asks" (in DC speak) like early filing of I-485 - which not co-incidentally the noise makers are completely silent about. Other reasons exist for the noise which I will not get into.

If you are wondering who the noisemakers are, all you have to do is figure out the losers with (say) the early I-485 fix (among our other asks). Immigration lawyers are an obvious suspect, hence the sight of them crawling out of the woodwork to opine on the dubious legality of the Dependent exemption - after not hearing a peep out of them on this matter in the last decade. Tech companies are another obvious suspect, we haven't heard any of them ask for anything other than more H1-B's, back door H1-B's, recapture and Dependent exemption.

Again, it is not a coincidence, that provisions which would benefit our community that the tech companies are making a noise about are unachievable "pie in the sky" asks.

You don't hear a peep about anything that is both achievable and would benefit us.

If you genuinely are on an H1 and want to see an improvement in your situation, you better hope and pray the dependent exemption and recapture noise does not drown out our more reasonable and achievable "asks" - which is exactly what the people that prey on us want.
This is a great perspective and I think it makes complete sense. Well said.
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Default We may have to wait another week..

Here is an AP Report excerpt on Yahoo

"Obama's goal had been to announce his decision around Labor Day, before leaving on a trip next week to Estonia and Wales. But a host of national security crises have pushed the announcement back, likely until after Obama returns, said the officials, who weren't authorized to comment by name and demanded anonymity."
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Check this out..

Cavuto Presses Gutierrez Quarrel On Immmigration | The Daily Caller
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I have been to a couple of advocacy day events, never posted on the forum before because the quality of the conversation on an important matter has never been so poor.

All the noise about dependent exemption and green card recapture is just that - noise. The people asking for dependent exemption know that it is impossible. The main reason they are asking is the hope it will drown out more reasonable "asks" (in DC speak) like early filing of I-485 - which not co-incidentally the noise makers are completely silent about. Other reasons exist for the noise which I will not get into.

If you are wondering who the noisemakers are, all you have to do is figure out the losers with (say) the early I-485 fix (among our other asks). Immigration lawyers are an obvious suspect, hence the sight of them crawling out of the woodwork to opine on the dubious legality of the Dependent exemption - after not hearing a peep out of them on this matter in the last decade. Tech companies are another obvious suspect, we haven't heard any of them ask for anything other than more H1-B's, back door H1-B's, recapture and Dependent exemption.

Again, it is not a coincidence, that provisions which would benefit our community that the tech companies are making a noise about are unachievable "pie in the sky" asks.

You don't hear a peep about anything that is both achievable and would benefit us.

If you genuinely are on an H1 and want to see an improvement in your situation, you better hope and pray the dependent exemption and recapture noise does not drown out our more reasonable and achievable "asks" - which is exactly what the people that prey on us want.
I concur. Pretty well said.
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I concur. Pretty well said.
Guys on this topic, I think we should throw our support to "Compete America" instead , IV forum Members are of no use but thinking they are demigods.

Thanks.
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Guys on this topic, I think we should throw our support to "Compete America" instead , IV forum Members are of no use but thinking they are demigods.

Thanks.
Do you ever think before opening your mouth? hil3182 just explained what is going on and you are suggesting exactly the opposite.

Possible Administrative Fixes - Filtering facts from fiction - Page 7 - Immigration Voice (Possible Administrative Fixes - Filtering facts from fiction)

You are suggesting supporting companies who are screwing all of us. And who cares for your support any way? Did anybody call you to ask for your support? You are no one in this discussion other than posting silly messages online anonymously which no one cares for.
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Guys on this topic, I think we should throw our support to "Compete America" instead , IV forum Members are of no use but thinking they are demigods.

Thanks.
Do you know IV is an important member on Compete America board?

And what exactly do you mean by 'throwing support'? What will you give them as 'support'? Can you please explain.
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Default Oh...in case you missed it....

....he and other folks here who think alike have agreed to donate 50% of their monthly salary to 'Compete America' until the latter can get 'em their GREEN CARDS!! Yeah, then what!

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Do you know IV is an important member on Compete America board?

And what exactly do you mean by 'throwing support'? What will you give them as 'support'? Can you please explain.
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Do you ever think before opening your mouth? hil3182 just explained what is going on and you are suggesting exactly the opposite.

Possible Administrative Fixes - Filtering facts from fiction - Page 7 - Immigration Voice (Possible Administrative Fixes - Filtering facts from fiction)

You are suggesting supporting companies who are screwing all of us. And who cares for your support any way? Did anybody call you to ask for your support? You are no one in this discussion other than posting silly messages online anonymously which no one cares for.
IV took donation right and return my 100 dollar donation then.
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IV took donation right and return my 100 dollar donation then.
I am not giving you jack shit. Why are you asking me go ask IV.

Ask IV why did they not get your and mine GC till now after taking your $100
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IV took donation right and return my 100 dollar donation then.
What took you so long? I thought you were suppose to be pissing all over the place like yesterday.

Why are you asking for $100, do you want to give it to technology companies who has enslaved everyone on H1B and L1 visa? They can use your $100 to lobby for getting more indentured servants like us. They have plenty of franklins to buy access to screw you million times over without you knowing it.

Why is it that now I notice more suckers on IV forum. More people vocal are negative and against their own agenda. Wonder if they had any real learning and education apart from getting a certificate.

Who will cut the branch of a tree while sitting on that same branch? Only a dumb or mad man
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Guys on this topic, I think we should throw our support to "Compete America" instead , IV forum Members are of no use but thinking they are demigods.

Thanks.
Seriously? I wonder where you learned to read and write. WAIT.... please don't tell, parents will stop sending their kid to that school.

throw our support? "Compete America"? Do you know who are these guys? Is it possible that these guys are the reason why your life is.... what is that word......hmmmmmm....... can't think of it...... FCUKED UP. This is like a blind (that is you) watching and admiring Kardashians (that is "Compete America")
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Obama's lawyers prepare to defend executive action on immigration - CBS News


1-Obama beefing up his lawyers and securing the legal front
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2-buying more time --

. . . . so labor day anticipators --wait some more ---likely after the foreign trips
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