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HR 213 has 44 sponsors now.
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Old 07-14-2015, 09:35 AM
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HR213 has now 45 cosponsors. But it seems it has been sitting in Subcommittee for far too long. HR3012 was passed in the house within 2 months of introduction. This bill has been sitting for 7months now.
Are we concentrating too much time getting cosponsors? I think we should be concentrating on the member who introduced the bill and the cosponsors and members of the Judicial committee to markup the bill for debate and hearings. I think Rep. Chaffetz is the right person to force the subcommittee to move the bill along.
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We should reach out and find out the status from the The Subcommittee on Immigration and Border Security:

Rep. Trey Gowdy, Chairman; Rep. Raul Labrador, Vice-Chairman
Rep. Smith
Rep. Lofgren
Rep. King
Rep. Guiterrez
Rep. Buck
Rep. Jackson Lee
Rep. Ratcliffe
Rep. Pierluisi
Rep. Trott
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HR213 has now 45 cosponsors. But it seems it has been sitting in Subcommittee for far too long. HR3012 was passed in the house within 2 months of introduction. This bill has been sitting for 7months now.
Are we concentrating too much time getting cosponsors? I think we should be concentrating on the member who introduced the bill and the cosponsors and members of the Judicial committee to markup the bill for debate and hearings. I think Rep. Chaffetz is the right person to force the subcommittee to move the bill along.
I agree the more it sits with no action highly possible it will get lost in oblivion.
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HR213 has now 45 cosponsors. But it seems it has been sitting in Subcommittee for far too long. HR3012 was passed in the house within 2 months of introduction. This bill has been sitting for 7months now.
Are we concentrating too much time getting cosponsors? I think we should be concentrating on the member who introduced the bill and the cosponsors and members of the Judicial committee to markup the bill for debate and hearings. I think Rep. Chaffetz is the right person to force the subcommittee to move the bill along.
Your observations are correct but they are correct only as far as they can be from ourside. If you had been to DC, you would not be asking these questions. Do not you think we would have already thought about this ? HR 3012 was introduced in 2011 and at that time situation was different. We would not be concentrating on co sponsors if it did not matter. We are not doing this because we like it or we want to keep doing something. Be assured that co sponsor goal that we have in the short term is derived after all necessary thinking. If you want to be part of how we derived at that thinking, you have to come to DC, otherwise, you will have to trust IV and take part in action items
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Your observations are correct but they are correct only as far as they can be from ourside. If you had been to DC, you would not be asking these questions. Do not you think we would have already thought about this ? HR 3012 was introduced in 2011 and at that time situation was different. We would not be concentrating on co sponsors if it did not matter. We are not doing this because we like it or we want to keep doing something. Be assured that co sponsor goal that we have in the short term is derived after all necessary thinking. If you want to be part of how we derived at that thinking, you have to come to DC, otherwise, you will have to trust IV and take part in action items
+1 Million Rupen.

Although HR3102 and HR213 have the same language and essentially the same bill, the former was introduce in 112th Congress when the situation was quite different from the 114th Congress. While at DC, Rep. Chaffetz came to our reception and explained to us why he wants more cosponsors before pushing for the bill. Hope you understand the situation and please help us with your efforts in getting more cosponsors.
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Your observations are correct but they are correct only as far as they can be from ourside. If you had been to DC, you would not be asking these questions. Do not you think we would have already thought about this ? HR 3012 was introduced in 2011 and at that time situation was different. We would not be concentrating on co sponsors if it did not matter. We are not doing this because we like it or we want to keep doing something. Be assured that co sponsor goal that we have in the short term is derived after all necessary thinking. If you want to be part of how we derived at that thinking, you have to come to DC, otherwise, you will have to trust IV and take part in action items
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Your observations are correct but they are correct only as far as they can be from ourside. If you had been to DC, you would not be asking these questions. Do not you think we would have already thought about this ? HR 3012 was introduced in 2011 and at that time situation was different. We would not be concentrating on co sponsors if it did not matter. We are not doing this because we like it or we want to keep doing something. Be assured that co sponsor goal that we have in the short term is derived after all necessary thinking. If you want to be part of how we derived at that thinking, you have to come to DC, otherwise, you will have to trust IV and take part in action items
Rupen - Agreed that attending the event in DC would have given us more insight into things, however the more IV explains how things work at backend, more the trust develops by itself. Some information is confidential and we understand that IV will not share and understandably so, however more insight into political and administrative processes and transparency about IV's approach to get things done will help people coming together for common cause. Needless to say, we all appreciate what IV is doing for everyone's benefit. Thanks again !!
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Rupen - Agreed that attending the event in DC would have given us more insight into things, however the more IV explains how things work at backend, more the trust develops by itself. Some information is confidential and we understand that IV will not share and understandably so, however more insight into political and administrative processes and transparency about IV's approach to get things done will help people coming together for common cause. Needless to say, we all appreciate what IV is doing for everyone's benefit. Thanks again !!
I just gave you (the forum)-the maximum information we are allowed to give, why we are looking for more cosponsors. Believe me there are not much story above or below that.
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I just gave you (the forum)-the maximum information we are allowed to give, why we are looking for more cosponsors. Believe me there are not much story above or below that.
Do we know how many more cosponsors to reach the threshold? Also please let me know if we have an active IV group in Charlotte, NC... we have couple of republican congressmen whom we could target (like Robert Pittinger).
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Do we know how many more cosponsors to reach the threshold? Also please let me know if we have an active IV group in Charlotte, NC... we have couple of republican congressmen whom we could target (like Robert Pittinger).
There are no upper limit of cosponsors.

We do have a very active team in Charlotte, NC. If you can PM me or hil3182 your name and contact info, either one of us will pass it on to the Charlotte team. They are wonderful people to work with.
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+1 Million Rupen.

Although HR3102 and HR213 have the same language and essentially the same bill, the former was introduce in 112th Congress when the situation was quite different from the 114th Congress. While at DC, Rep. Chaffetz came to our reception and explained to us why he wants more cosponsors before pushing for the bill. Hope you understand the situation and please help us with your efforts in getting more cosponsors.
There is no denying that IV and its lead supporters have everyone's best interest at heart and are doing the right thing.

Sengs, I will appreciate if you can share a little bit from Rep. Chaffetz's explanation on why getting more co-sponsors is important this time around. My concern is that Rep. Chaffetz's has introduced total 18 Bills so far including H.R 213, in 114th congress. He has his hands full and quite possibly could get deviated towards more attractive/famous bills. Is someone from IV in touch with Rep. Chaffetz on regular basis?
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There is no denying that IV and its lead supporters have everyone's best interest at heart and are doing the right thing.

Sengs, I will appreciate if you can share a little bit from Rep. Chaffetz's explanation on why getting more co-sponsors is important this time around. My concern is that Rep. Chaffetz's has introduced total 18 Bills so far including H.R 213, in 114th congress. He has his hands full and quite possibly could get deviated towards more attractive/famous bills. Is someone from IV in touch with Rep. Chaffetz on regular basis?
This is his landmark bill and his topmost priority.
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I think I have given enough information why IV is looking for more cosponsors. If you would really like to know how things are happening behind the scenes, please don't stay in front of the screens and join our (your) efforts, and come on the other side of the screen, which is active help. We are always short of man power. More of us can get involved, the more quickly we can achieve this freedom. We need lots of help, especially folks from Republican districts (I gave you another hint here).

Thanks for your interest, folks. It is just not mine or IVs, it is with all our efforts we can bring this nightmare to an end.
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