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andem123 01-11-2015 06:15 PM

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Suva 01-11-2015 08:19 PM

Whatever was the outcome, we understand IV's honest fight for legal immigrants. I as a legal immigrant appreciates IV's help on this.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by Administrator2 (Post 3584505)
We don't think that it matters what some immigration lawyer's website say. Different lawyer different opinions. Also, there is a difference between lawyer and lawmaker.

This opinion is only what is already available online, there is nothing new. But we disagree with this assertion that Ms. Lofgren is co-sponsoring the bill because it increases family based country limits to 15%. Congresswoman Lofgren championed removal of per country limits in EB category going back to 2008 when she sponsored a bill H.R.5921 in 2008.

Here is the text of that bill H.R.5921.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/110th-...bill/5921/text

We were involved in this bill for removing per-country limits back in 2008 as well. Congresswoman Lofgren was sponsor of this bill H.R.5921 and it did not increase family based per-country quota to 15%. So it is not true that Congresswoman Lofgren only supports H.R.213 because it increases family based quota from 7% to 15%.

Nevertheless, we support increasing family based per-country quota to 15% because that will reduce the wait times for family based immigrants. However, we disagree that Ms. Lofgren is co-sponsoring this bill only because it increases family based quota. And anyone who says that needs to know better. Congresswoman Lofgren is a big champion of elimination of per country limits in EB category.

Regarding adding Irish E-3 visa bill to H.R.3012 - back in 2012 Sen. Grassley had a hold on our bill. At that time, in Feb/March-2012, a very expensive political consultant suggested that if somehow E-3 Irish visa bill was added to H.R.3012, then Senator for the State of Massachusetts, Sen. Scott Brown could help remove the hold on H.R.3012.

There are a lot of US voters who identify themselves with Irish heritage in the state of MA and NY. The thinking was that if Sen. Brown is able to get E-3 visas for Irish, then he might have a chance to win his senatorial election in Nov-2012. So Sen. Brown (MA) and Sen. Schumer (NY) together added E-3 Irish visa bill to H.R.3012. We were in all those discussions including meetings with Deputy Ambassador of Irish Embassy in Washington. Then Sen. Brown asked Senator Grassley to remove his hold as passage of E-3 Irish visas (in H.R.3012) might help his re-election. Sen. Grassley did not relent but if he did then it would have been a masterful stroke. But as an outcome of all that, somehow at that time E-3 Irish visa bill was added to H.R.3012.

Most people are unaware of this but the deal was that if E-3 Irish visas bill was unable to help remove Sen. Grassley's hold and if someone else puts hold on if E-3 Irish visas bill, then to prevent any overload, E-3 visas part will be stripped from the final H.R.3012 bill before passing it.

Later, in July-2012, Sen. Grassley added his amendment to check for fraud in H-1B system. IV believes that there is a lot of fraud in H-1B system and our members tell us that a lot of immigration lawyers are somehow part of that evil nexus of employer-immigration lawyer causing fraud and exploitation of immigrant employee. Which is why we fully agreed, and we continue to agree with Senator Grassley's amendment.

Senator Grassley decided to remove his hold in July-2012 after he added his amendment. So it is factually not true that Sen. Grassley's text was not added to the Senate version of the bill. It was. And we liked Sen. Grassley's amendment even when bunch of lawyers did not like it. Some employers (which we think are mostly unethical and unscrupulous) were against Sen. Grassley's amendment. And some lawyers (who usually tend to get business from these employers) were also against Sen. Grassley's amendment. But their influence could not stop the bill. In the end, Sen. Sessions had put a hold on H.R.3012, not because of E-3 Irish visas or Grassley Amendment or but for a totally different reason. Back in 2nd half of 2012, Sen. Sessions was not opposed to the concept of elimination of per-country limits but he was making a principled stand on a subject not related to elimination of per-country limits. And rest is history. This is only 50,000 feet view of what transpired behind the scene and if we have to detail out everything, it will be 1000 page epic.

The point is, some lawyers may post information what is already available online. We don't know their motivation. But we were in the middle of all the activity related to bill H.R.3012 in the last round, and we expect to be play a role this time. And what comes out in news is often totally different from what is actually happening behind the scene.

You are free to read whatever you like online. But try to filter out someone's opinion over facts. And the fact is this -

Although immigration lawyers post on their websites as if they know what is going on, Congressional offices in Senate and House of Representatives don't know these big name immigration lawyers who have websites. These big name immigration lawyers that most immigrants revere online, no one knows them and no one gives a jack shit about them in Congressional offices and policy making.

And more importantly, the fact is - EVERY Congressional office knows Immigration Voice. Not because we are better than anyone else, but because we are honest in presenting policy suggestions that are good for America.

There is a power in getting involved and speaking up when you see something wrong. That is the most American thing to do. That is why, even at the cost of repetition we ask everyone over and over again to meet with your Member of Congress in your city or participate in Advocacy event in Washington to share your story/experience with the backlogs. Because your experience and desire to share you human story is thousands of times more powerful than what some immigration lawyer thinks. And that is a fact.

Stop reading online opinions of different immigration lawyers because that doesn't add any value to the debate, rather get involved and speak up and setup meeting with the office of Member of Congress. Online petitions and online voting or petition on Change.org, none of that add any value at all. You can, everyone can make a real difference in the debate by participating in the real world (rather than reading some opinion in the virtual world). The only thing that is preventing you from participating in the real action is your own will to do meaningful action to change your life and the lives of your family members.

My hope is that you will reconsider how you spend your time and actively participate in real advocacy to make the change.


checklaw 01-11-2015 08:20 PM

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rajuGAC 01-11-2015 09:45 PM

$100
 
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Vineeth 01-11-2015 10:54 PM

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Thank You and all the best !
 
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bennyd20 01-12-2015 08:14 PM

help with paypal
 
I have been trying to contribute since couple of days. But for some reason I am not getting redirected to the Paypal site from IV.

Can someone confirm the email to which I can send money through Paypal?

Is it donations@immigrationvoice.org?

I appreciate all the great work done by IV.

rupen 01-12-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bennyd20 (Post 3584575)
I have been trying to contribute since couple of days. But for some reason I am not getting redirected to the Paypal site from IV.

Can someone confirm the email to which I can send money through Paypal?

Is it donations@immigrationvoice.org?

I appreciate all the great work done by IV.

donations@immigrationvoice.org

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Edit Reason: Provided correct email address

prodigy_max3 01-12-2015 08:50 PM

Is there an approximate timeframe or ETA for when the bill will be processed by the committee and move to vote in congress?

sarumaha 01-12-2015 09:42 PM

Please sign a petition for HR 213.

Please submit your petitions to Pass with a majority the - H.R.213 - To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and

There are only 295 petitions submitted and over 40k for animal cruelty. I even paid the 9 dollars to deliver the message to congress.

rupen 01-12-2015 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sarumaha (Post 3584578)
Please sign a petition for HR 213.

Please submit your petitions to Pass with a majority the - H.R.213 - To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and

There are only 295 petitions submitted and over 40k for animal cruelty. I even paid the 9 dollars to deliver the message to congress.

We at ImmigrationVoice do not believe in petitions. It is almost impossible to get required number of signatures within the time frame and even if by magic if you do get numbers, it would only fetch generic response without any outcome. If you do want to do something, please attend advocacy event during Feb 8-10, make donation to ImmigrationVoice, meet your local congressional offices and talk to your friends to do the same. I know all this is difficult compared to signing a petition, but that's what it takes to see positive outcome.

Administrator2 01-12-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarumaha (Post 3584578)
Please sign a petition for HR 213.

Please submit your petitions to Pass with a majority the - H.R.213 - To amend the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants, and

There are only 295 petitions submitted and over 40k for animal cruelty. I even paid the 9 dollars to deliver the message to congress.

Some things just never change

Someone is such an idiot that even after repeated request they started this online petition. In a few days someone else will start another petition and then someone will start another petition. If you did not get the message then let us repeat again -

ONLINE PETITIONS LIKE THIS HAS ZERO VALUE
SUCH ONLINE PETITIONS HURT OUR CAUSE
YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME AND TIME OF EVERYONE WHO WILL CLICK BUTTON ON THIS PETITION

Can anything be more clear than this? This is insane behavior.

We are trying to get support for this bill and we are requesting you, rather we are pleading you to please not start such petitions or click button on such petitions. Such petitions mean jack shit in the real world.

STOP POSTING SUCH PETITIONS ON THIS WEBSITE

dhruva12 01-12-2015 11:02 PM

Best of Luck...
 
Appreciate the effort and here is the "least" i can do...

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bims_patel 01-13-2015 11:28 AM

Been following IV for sometime, donated $100 today. Transaction ID: 6J91452909057105A. Keep up the good work!!

One confusion though. As per this: https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr213 it has 3% chances of being enacted. I certainly don't believe that number for this bill as this time it has but can anybody tell how is that number derived?

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