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Old 10-05-2015, 09:40 AM
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Here is what a senior member from other forum had to say. I think he is making some sense.
That is true also their will be not i140 ead+ap by the looks of it.
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Old 10-05-2015, 09:58 AM
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Unfortunately this might be true. In the overall schema of things and taking into account the past 1 year - DHS/USCIS/DOS have been trying to streamline this whole process through the EO. Please do not forget the H4 EAD rule and the recent Oct VB. To my knowledge the dates would have continued to move forward, giving some relief to EB2/EB3 folks stuck in the queue. Please note that EB3 folks had absolutely no relief from these rulings, hoping that in the months to come the dates will move ahead - perhaps at a snails pace. We have waited for so long, what's another 10-12 months or maybe another 1-2 years. This whole law suit fiasco would have burned the bridges. Instead of putting efforts into HR213, everyone affected by the recent fiasco jumped into the law suit boat, only thinking of short term and personal gains. This is really disheartening - when will be learn from our mistakes?
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Unfortunately this might be true. In the overall schema of things and taking into account the past 1 year - DHS/USCIS/DOS have been trying to streamline this whole process through the EO. Please do not forget the H4 EAD rule and the recent Oct VB. To my knowledge the dates would have continued to move forward, giving some relief to EB2/EB3 folks stuck in the queue. Please note that EB3 folks had absolutely no relief from these rulings, hoping that in the months to come the dates will move ahead - perhaps at a snails pace. We have waited for so long, what's another 10-12 months or maybe another 1-2 years. This whole law suit fiasco would have burned the bridges. Instead of putting efforts into HR213, everyone affected by the recent fiasco jumped into the law suit boat, only thinking of short term and personal gains. This is really disheartening - when will be learn from our mistakes?
I hate to imagine a scenario where we do not get any more Admin fixes due to lawsuit. Those that have supported it have basically shot everyone in the foot.
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Here is what a senior member from other forum had to say. I think he is making some sense.
Dude,
Don't come up your own imaginary reasons...Please find the below section from IV email today morning.

"It is also very important that all Immigration Voice members actively participate in this Action Item to call your Senators and Representatives. We have been promised specific fixes by the Administration of which this Visa Bulletin modernization was supposed to be a significant part. We have been let down for this supposedly most easy fix and we need to be vocal about it - or we run the risk of losing or watering down our other upcoming fixes"
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Old 10-05-2015, 11:29 AM
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Here is what a senior member from other forum had to say. I think he is making some sense.
It seems the fix of AD concept was introduced as a part of Fix Advocated by IV. If that is the case some in IV must have known what was expected. If Sept 9th VB was just inadvertent mistake by USCIS/DOS then both lawsuit and flower campaign were not needed and both may spoil relationship. My assumption is AD is to avoid full utilization of Visa numbers and to avoid visa wastage but not to give unlimited EAD. If the aim is to give unlimited EAD then they could have set PD of 2013 or 2014 and there is no need for H4-EAD or I140 EAD.
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Mistakes don't happen like this. The dates are very well thoughtout and I am sure the VB gets vetted before release. With the kind of experience CO has in this, he wont make a mistake where VB has to be revised.

IV for sure knows what cause the revision and therefore IV is so focused on this. End of the day there is nothing to lose here.

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If Sept 9th VB was just inadvertent mistake by USCIS/DOS then both lawsuit and flower campaign were not needed and both may spoil relationship.
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It seems the fix of AD concept was introduced as a part of Fix Advocated by IV. If that is the case some in IV must have known what was expected. If Sept 9th VB was just inadvertent mistake by USCIS/DOS then both lawsuit and flower campaign were not needed and both may spoil relationship. My assumption is AD is to avoid full utilization of Visa numbers and to avoid visa wastage but not to give unlimited EAD. If the aim is to give unlimited EAD then they could have set PD of 2013 or 2014 and there is no need for H4-EAD or I140 EAD.
Why is H4-EAD is not needed ? Why is I140 EAD not needed ? Do you know restrictions of EAD ? Just that we are not benefited doesn't mean every one doesn't need it. Your post just highlights the short benefits you are looking at.
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1)He doesn't need the money for the TRO, documents for which have been submitted and the work for which has been done.

Who doesn't need money in this world? He has the skill of telling the immigrant community that he is fighting for their cause in a better way. He is showing hope



2)He needs the money for months of discovery and appeals which will drag on and on and on. The EO could be delayed (if any of it is left) and might even be cancelled.

So... What? Its $25000 --not from one person but from 500 people? Thats like $50 in an indian restaurant. So be it. People have spent $700-800 on just medicals



3)The way Siskind has played his cards, all our futures depend on the TRO. If the TRO works, people get to file AoS, the rest of the lawsuit is academic. It is doesn't work Siskinds activities will hurt. Siskind better know that his TRO has a good chance of working - because if he doesn't think it will work and he is filing it anyway, he is behaving incredibly recklessly.

Then why dont you become an attorney and solve the problems

4)People donating money to Siskind don't realize they are digging their own grave. This is why we characterize our relationships with Siskind (and any other lawyer or interest group for that matter) as transactional. We have learnt through hard experience that everyone has their own agenda, and if you rely on someone else to push your agenda, your agenda will become sacrificial leverage for someone else to get what they want. He has his own agenda that doesn't correspond with our own and if you don't keep these guys on a tight leash, they will run off and chase their own agenda.

The immigrants believe they are already in a grave. All we need to know is how deep our group is going to drag us in.


5)As we speak Siskinds and Gotchers immature but I am sure we'll-meaning servants are all over forums and the web digging their own graves, with no idea of the big picture, how things really work and what is going on in the background.

Yes ... Lot of people dont have any idea as to how things work, i am glad that you have figured out all the problems but the problem is you are not greg siskind and you could not raise that money so quick

6)The way things are devolving is Greg and DHS are digging in on both sides and we and the rest of the EO are caught in the crossfire.

As if we are not in the crossfire already. This executive order bullshit thing is being kept alive as if we are all going to get 72 virgins and 72 viagra tablets and are being convinced to just be alive everyday.. Let go of this attitude that you are carrying all of us on your shoulders. Nothing is guaranteed. We are all trying to make it in usa but even with a greencard, nothing is guaranteed. The leaders in usa are no different than anywhere in the world


7)Siskind is in an enviable position here, he is getting free advertising, getting paid for his legal work of quality we are not equipped to judge. Even if he looses he still is a hero among his servants who are too dumb to realize the big picture. As we were scared off, the lawyers will end up pushing their own agenda to the detriment of the broader interests of the high skilled community.,

see you are jealous because siskind is in an enviable position. If the people who paid money to greg's funding and they are all servants in your eyes, its a shame that you are a moderator for this forum. Just chill out, ok. If tomorrow all the indians want to kiss an attorney's ass or not is their choice. If a grown up humanbeing made all the way from india to us --with education and working, raising families.. They did do well for themselves, no doubt they do not have the all knowing superpower and thinking like you. Thats why we have leaders everywhere trying to sort out ordinary people's life


I was talking to an IV old timer yesterday, and apparently once upon a time some 15 years ago, a lawyer named Rajeev Khanna tried something similar - details of which no one can seem to remember. He lost the case but for a while he was hailed as a conquering hero and I am sure his practice did very well.

SO BLOODY WHAT??

And also whoever threatened to ban me—with username –TOADIE OR BOADIE OR GOADIE, I DON’T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS FORUM. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BAN ME, I AM LEAVING RIGHT NOW
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Your rage is mis-directed. The proper people to take it out are in DC who aren't doing their job. If you are still around, please channel it productively by following this action item (URGENT Action Item: #FighbackVBGate).

We can talk about other things later.
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Your rage is mis-directed. The proper people to take it out are in DC who aren't doing their job. If you are still around, please channel it productively by following this action item (URGENT Action Item: #FighbackVBGate).

We can talk about other things later.
Can you please tell me why it took SOOOO LOOOONG for IV to come up with this simple action item. On Sept 29, The Letter format was already available on this Link
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I took that template and on Sept 30th and Faxed all my Senators and Congressman and already got answer from of the reps on Oct 1 -2.

Why did you delay the action item this far?. It shows how serious you want to engage in #visagate2015 . Ok thanks for the letter format, but I don't need it anyway as I heard already from the Senators and Congressman.

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Can you please tell me why it took SOOOO LOOOONG for IV to come up with this simple action item. On Sept 29, The Letter format was already available on this Link

I took that template and on Sept 30th and Faxed all my Senators and Congressman and already got answer from of the reps on Oct 1 -2.

Why did you delay the action item this far?. It shows how serious you want to engage in #visagate2015 . Ok thanks for the letter format, but I don't need it anyway as I heard already from the Senators and Congressman.
I would love to explain things to you, but now is not the time. Now is the time to act (URGENT Action Item: #FighbackVBGate), not talk.

Please follow today's action item (URGENT Action Item: #FighbackVBGate).
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Flowers tried to resend by UPS to DHS office after it was refused to be accepted the first time resulted into some wierd location delivery. I am not sure where they delivered eventually. Looks to be Burlington, NJ instead of DC?

BURLINGTON, NJ, US 10/05/2015 11:09 A.M. Delivered
Landover, DC, United States 10/02/2015 4:23 P.M. The receiver does not want the product and refused the delivery.
Landover, DC, United States 10/01/2015 2:14 P.M. The receiver does not want the product and refused the delivery.
United States 09/30/2015 3:04 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
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Flowers tried to resend by UPS to DHS office after it was refused to be accepted the first time resulted into some wierd location delivery. I am not sure where they delivered eventually. Looks to be Burlington, NJ instead of DC?

BURLINGTON, NJ, US 10/05/2015 11:09 A.M. Delivered
Landover, DC, United States 10/02/2015 4:23 P.M. The receiver does not want the product and refused the delivery.
Landover, DC, United States 10/01/2015 2:14 P.M. The receiver does not want the product and refused the delivery.
United States 09/30/2015 3:04 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS
It went back to the Flower Shop from where you ordered because delivery failed.
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Read a lot of posts after my weekend break. Nice entertainment, lawyer files the suit, whining.. Lawyer gets more donations in 10 hours than we have in months or years, whining.. Naaice...

I am a member in both forums btw, I haven't seen any ugly, degrading posts about IV anywhere. Only here in IV forum we bad mouth lawyers, or a single lawyer who is doing something for the people affected by vb fiasco. Is he a godly figure doing all this just for others, probably not. He has his own interests in it as well, but so do all other immigration lawyers. Where are the likes of other top 10 immigration law firms in the country? One of them has my case in their kitty, but they are silently watching this game taking a neutral stand - spineless cowards.

And for IV - the day you understand that people reading your blog are other than your bhakts, who use sense of judgement to every foul word you use, you will that day stop losing members, supporters like me.

Ey, ban me - coz I am not considering IV my Guru..
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Agree. The only bashing I see is on this forum, that too by Admins/Senior Members of IV. I'm one of several who used to respect this group, but after all these posts from "Admins" you've lost supporters like me. If you can't support others who are fighting for the cause, then don't. But don't badmouth them, it reflects poorly only on you.
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