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Old 10-07-2015, 08:53 AM
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Default HR 213 is the only way

It's clear we can't trust the administration to keep its word. Lawyers and employers also have a vested interested in a captive labor force. The only solution is legislation. In my humble opinion, we should concentrate on getting HR 213 to the floor in one way or another. Anything else is like a band aid on a sucking chest wound.
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It's clear we can't trust the administration to keep its word. Lawyers and employers also have a vested interested in a captive labor force. The only solution is legislation. In my humble opinion, we should concentrate on getting HR 213 to the floor in one way or another. Anything else is like a band aid on a sucking chest wound.
Are you a member of a state chapter? That's where most of the 213 action is happening. 213 will not happen on its own - people will need to pitch in.

We are up to 57 sponsors now - including Guitterez - which is huge, because it means all Democrats are on board now.

Don't give up on the EO, this VB bullshit is a case of good intentions gone awry.
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Are you a member of a state chapter? That's where most of the 213 action is happening. 213 will not happen on its own - people will need to pitch in.

We are up to 57 sponsors now - including Guitterez - which is huge, because it means all Democrats are on board now.

Don't give up on the EO, this VB bullshit is a case of good intentions gone awry.
Hey Hil - do you still think VB will get fixed? You mentioned good intentions gone awry...was it just a mistake or something more to it? Thx
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Hey Hil - do you still think VB will get fixed? You mentioned good intentions gone awry...was it just a mistake or something more to it? Thx
TRO is denied. Let's channel all the buildup and energy post 9/25 in advocating HR 213. With that passed we can say bye bye to Visa Bulletins.
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TRO is denied. Let's channel all the buildup and energy post 9/25 in advocating HR 213. With that passed we can say bye bye to Visa Bulletins.
Really denied?
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Really denied?
yes, unfortunately, but wasn't the news already leaked?
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I am again saying that we are wasting time on VB…. November one will be out soon, and reversed again.

HR213 has 57 cosponsors today. We now have Luis Guiterrez who cosponsored last night, and a a handful of cosponsors left before the bill goes to the next step.

Also theres a chance that Chaffetz can become the speaker of the house. If any, HR213 has the best chance as of now. Lets focus on that.
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Very well put together, How visas are wasted:-

How Does Uncle Sam Waste Immigrant Visas? — Immigration Attorneys Portland Oregon


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yes, unfortunately, but wasn't the news already leaked?
Yeah, lawyer is back tracking and saying he was pessimistic about the TRO from the get go, doesn't matter now, he had nothing to lose....he was well funded.
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How does this article help us other than doing publicity of another lawyer?
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Yeah, lawyer is back tracking and saying he was pessimistic about the TRO from the get go, doesn't matter now, he had nothing to lose....he was well funded.
My humble request is not to waste energy in unnecessay debate but to just hammer the HR 213 past the finish line. We have lots of pent up energy to channelize into that. Time to call your reps for 2nd time, not for VB but for HR 213 this time.
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I am thinking now the lawsuit followers can say the “thanks very much” and join us ? Shut those forums down!

With the momentum and anger, I believe we can do HR213 as well as visa bulletin. Yes, I am greedy to file AOS and still ready to do whatever!

I am joining a very motivated IV member and his buddies and meeting my rep on Oct 19 for HR213, This is thanks to IV state chapters and IV forum.

Where is the next action item for VB crap clean-up?
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How does this article help us other than doing publicity of another lawyer?
Just wanted to share it for people who don't know how the visas are wasted. Didn't relaise that I'm doing publicity of another lawyer, will keep that in mind next time.
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Since the very beginning, IV have been working on highlighting this issue. We had a very productive meetings in 2013. Since 2014, we have been told that the visa numbers are not wasted. Look at the number of EB visas wasted in 2014, they are zero. So the administration has stepped up to put in the effort for not letting visa numbers go waste.

For the visa numbers wasted in previous years, it requires Congress to pass a bill to recapture lost visa numbers. Congress will not let recapture of unused green cards or increase of EB green cards outside of CIR.

So anyone who wants to bring this up again at this moment in time, is trying to divert your attention into a wrong direction because unused visas from previous years cannot be recaptured without Congress passing CIR.

If you are mad with the backlog, then the LAST THING you want to do is ever waste your time to click on any online petitions or waste your time loitering online forums. Get out of virtual world of forums and get into the real world of calling the local office of your Congressman and Senator, setup time for meeting, and go with your friends to talk with them. It is the easiest thing to do. And that, and only that, will fix your problems. You can as well take 1000 years to understand this concept. But the change WILL ONLY come when people will engage and do their share of speaking up.

ONLINE PETITIONS IS THE REASON FOR PEOPLE NOT SPEAKING UP, WHICH IS THE REASON FOR PROLONGED BACKLOGS. PLEASE STOP NONSENSE OF ONLINE PETITION

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