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Old 10-09-2015, 02:59 PM
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Would love to hear a word or two from Admin/pappu/Hil... on the Nov bull release. Any renewed action items? Any word from WH? Should we talk to Greg to back out from the litigation.

My engines have stopped working, not sure where i am coasting towards. Lots of action last two weeks, and now feeling pretty flat, fear will go back to my slumber. IV core...where do we stand, kindly update.
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How about using 9/25 as AntiLegalImmigrationDay and send flower every year.
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Default November VB?

Is November VB released?

Visa Bulletin For November 2015
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The aim of the AD is to avoid wastage of Visa. That means for 140K green cards if they allow filing of 180 to 200K should be fine. In those 140K persons GC must be ready to be processed. So there would not be any wastage of Visa. So I undestand that it is not the early AOS option. Notsure early Aos is under consideration. But due to current AD concept only a 20 to 50K will be benefite extra than the original PD concept. But
the PD move will be orderly and no fast forward or fast backward movements


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Would love to hear a word or two from Admin/pappu/Hil... on the Nov bull release. Any renewed action items? Any word from WH? Should we talk to Greg to back out from the litigation.

My engines have stopped working, not sure where i am coasting towards. Lots of action last two weeks, and now feeling pretty flat, fear will go back to my slumber. IV core...where do we stand, kindly update.
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:19 PM
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How about using 9/25 as AntiLegalImmigrationDay and send flower every year.
Instead of flowers, let's send them calculators. In fact let's send them calculators in October. What say IV admin? And in November, after the December visa bulletin comes out, let's send them 1st grade common core math assignments along with little turkey dolls, to remind them how the original immigrants were welcomed by the native Americans.
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:49 PM
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Greg cost 25K and IV cost 300k with flower campaign,nothing worked.

No complaints whatsoever everybody tired their bit. ITS ALL OVER!!!
Typical high skilled immigrant mentality. We want something to work instantly. Advocacy is a marathon. Have to change hearts and minds. And raising awareness of the issue is key.

And certain things you can't put value on. The Flower campaign got picked up by top US media. NYTimes, CNN, The Boston Globe and others. The amount of awareness this has created is huge. IV works from all angles.
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Old 10-09-2015, 04:56 PM
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Default There is no way VB dates can move rapidly for India!

140,000 for Principles and their dependents(spouse/kids)

Eb1 = 140,000 * 28.6% = 37,520*
Eb2 = 140,000 * 28.6% = 37,520**
Eb3 = 140,000 * 28.6% = 37,520***
Eb4 = 140,000 * 7.1% = 9,940
Eb5 = 140,000 * 7.1% = 9,940

*Plus any unused visas from the 4th and 5th preferences

**Plus any unused visas from the 1st preference

***Plus any unused visas the 1st and 2nd preference

So, countries like India, China, Philippines and Mexico – have higher levels of immigration and so have an annual 7% limit imposed on them: 37,520 * 7% = 2626 employment based visas.

the Visa Office (VO) is tasked with determining the cut off. The VO subdivides the annual preference and foreign state limitations into monthly allotments. So, numbers for India would be divided thus: 2626/12 = 219 for each month.

Lets assume there are 1000 applicants from India who fall in a month so including their dependents the count would go upto 3k a month and 219 available visas are not at all sufficient. Demand is more than supply, so how the hell VB dates can move rapidly.

The AD concept is introduced just to eliminate redundancy and have insight in the below blind spots:-

1) An employee whose I140 is approved in EB3 may port to EB2 (or eb2 to eb1,eb3 to eb1 else any other category) either through same employer or a different one. But the employer fails to withdraw the EB3 petition. Then the DOS has no clue of the same and the duplicate count remains in the DOS system..

2) Employee changes jobs and the new employer files a new GC petition, but the old employer does not withdraw the I-140 . Again DOS has no clue about the same hence duplicate count is added to the system..

3) The Employee is died. But the employer failed to withdraw petition . DOS has no clue of the same. The count of approved petition still remains.

4) Employee returns back to his home country, and the employer did not withdraw the Petition nor the employee is interested in coming to USA. DOS has no clue of the same and the approved petition count remains in the system.

5) Employee has got married and has an I140 approved but DOS has no clue how many family member will be added for green card at the time of processing I1485.

6) Employer has gone out of Business and fails to withdraw the petitions. DOS has no clue of the same.

7) Employee has a family member who sponsored them for a green card under Family category and they don’t need their employment-based petition anymore. DOS has no clue of the same.

8) Employee came to US on work visa and married a US citizen and hence they don’t need to continue the employer provided GC petition. DOS has no clue of the same.

9) Employees fails to know that their dates are Current and file their petition at a later date. DOS predicts all applications to come in when its Current but practically lots of applications are received at a very later date causing DOS unable to predict demand.

10) DOS cannot predict the number of applications that might be revoked or denied due to fraud, criminal, and medical issues.

So, 2626 visas annually for each EB1, EB2 and EB3 categories for India. The only other way to get additional visas into EBI is Spillover from FB categories or other EBROW categories. Hence EB1I and EB2I will always get benefit of Spillovers(if any), EB3I can expect to move at snails pace. In the coming years, lot of porting is expected to slow down EB2 pace which is already getting slow but EB3I is moving like planet Pluto. What I get from these calculations is that EBI backlogged people are doomed unless country limit is eliminated or total visas are increased or new EO actions which provide relief are implemented. I only see upcoming I140 regulation as a hope in future for the temporary relief for the backlogged, HR213 would be a BONUS for the backlogged community if at all we get it.
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Old 10-09-2015, 05:01 PM
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The lawyers are openly lobbying for recapture with the EO. At the same time IV mentioned that recapture is very difficult to get by EO as that needs a bill from congress. But at the same time they did one day campaign on last March for recapture. Why that is needed if you are strong on that it is not possible by EO legally. was it not look like stupid?
My friend, if you think that AILA and other lawyers are openly lobbying for recapture, let me be the first one to tell you that it is not happening. Yes they may be saying that they want it. But they only keep saying it because they know it is not possible and it helps them then ask for other things.

I think you are referring to the 'Dear Colleague' letter that congressmen were gathering for recapture. To be clear IV supports Recapture and Dependent exemption. It has always been on our ask list. But then IV also believes in spending time on something that can get done. The letter being circulated was to gather support around the concept and hence IV ran that campaign. Which by the way had a great impact. Created awareness on the Hill about the issue. It did not work but somewhere down the line when legislation gets written, staffers and congressmen will be aware of the issue. Advocacy is a marathon, with different layers of strategy. Again, if you want instant impact, you will always be dejected.
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Folks that have continuing fascination for lawyers. Here is some simple stuff.

And I challenge any of the Greg fans to ask him and AILA directly on twitter.

Check out AILA's submission to Department of State and Department of Homeland Security Request for Information dated 30th December, 2014. (Attached)

Then read IV's submission to Department of State and Department of Homeland Security Request for Information dated 30th December, 2014. (Attached)

Read both of them carefully. What is IV proposing? What is AILA proposing? Do any of the simple fixes that will give us the ability to change jobs, get raises, stop the exploitation mentioned in the AILA submission? If AILA cares so much about immigrants, why did none of the fixes made it to their list?

Outraged? Now go and ask Greg what side he is on.
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File Type: pdf IV Submission.pdf (435.3 KB, 12 views)
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Yep. I have joined and I am looking forward to do something myself. I have learned now that there is no point in speculating and reading every tweet. Loss of energy and no real gain.

Once in a while, its fun to do lawyer bashing.
Here is reply I have received from Senator of NC Tom Tillis

Thank you for taking the time to contact me about the changes to the October 2015 Visa Bulletin. I appreciate hearing from you.
As you may know, on September 9, 2015, the United States Department of State issued the October 2015 Visa Bulletin, which included new status adjustment dates for certain individuals from India, China, and the Philippines. A status adjustment moves an individual's resident status from "nonimmigrant" to "permanent resident." However, on September 25, 2015, the information contained in the bulletin was changed to reflect the original status adjustment schedule, which will result in longer delays for certain individuals and families applying for visas.
When it comes to immigration, we need to pursue policy objectives that prioritize the legitimate needs of businesses without harming American workers or foreign nationals who have followed the law and are legally working in the United States. As you may know, I am a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee. The Judiciary Committee has been briefed on the issue and is following it closely. If the issue comes before the Committee or the full Senate, I will keep your views in mind.
Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. Please do not hesitate to contact me in the future about other issues that are important to you.
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Instead of flowers, let's send them calculators. In fact let's send them calculators in October. What say IV admin? And in November, after the December visa bulletin comes out, let's send them 1st grade common core math assignments along with little turkey dolls, to remind them how the original immigrants were welcomed by the native Americans.
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Is November VB released?

Visa Bulletin For November 2015
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This thread needs to be booted, sucking way too much energy in futile discussions, proving to be very unproductive.
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This is the message that I got from my representative:-

Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXXXXXX,

Thank you for taking the time to share your passion on the topic of immigration reform. It is good to hear from you.



Our nation's immigration laws make it much too difficult for prospective immigrants who want to contribute to our economy legally and it is much too easy for folks who would rather sneak across our border. We are a nation of immigrants as well as a nation of laws, and those ideas are not mutually exclusive. I am committed to working with my colleagues in Congress to welcome legal immigrants who want to invest in and strengthen our nation and to remove those immigrants who show contempt for our laws by illegally crossing the border.



Thank you again for sharing your thoughts. Please do not hesitate to call on me if I may be of further assistance.

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