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Old 10-13-2015, 05:28 PM
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if i-140 ead is sent to OMB, then its a done deal...LOL...lV been telling I-140 ead is a done deal but god knows when ...
Maybe next life 😭😂😍😜
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if i-140 ead is sent to OMB, then its a done deal...LOL...lV been telling I-140 ead is a done deal but god knows when ...
My heads up last six months some one has says heads down otherwise I m tired, I have my paper ready for six months.🙈🙉🙊
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My heads up last six months some one has says heads down otherwise I m tired, I have my paper ready for six months.🙈🙉🙊
If you keep trusting lawsuits then the date of fixes will be postponed. No generosity will be shown once you pick a fight that you are sure to lose. Do you have lot of money to fight?
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If you keep trusting lawsuits then the date of fixes will be postponed. No generosity will be shown once you pick a fight that you are sure to lose. Do you have lot of money to fight?
I read a little about the lawsuit since we are just waiting for news (any news).
Here is one issue about the lawsuit (although my lawyer-IQ is zero). The judge is saying that he does not think the lawsuit based on merits is likely to succeed because “Plaintiff’s only support for this argument is declarations of other immigration attorneys opining on the matter.”

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“Defendants also assert, without citation, that the “issuance of the Visa Bulletin prior to its effective date is a courtesy that is not required by statute.” Dkt. #13 at 12. The Court simply cannot find Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on a due process claim when they cannot point to any law establishing that a Visa Bulletin can create a constitutional right to due process, and Defendants present evidence clearly calling into question the reasonableness of Plaintiffs relying on these Visa Bulletins to create “a legitimate claim of entitlement.” Plaintiffs thus fail to demonstrate a likelihood of success on the merits at this time.”

So I think now the lawsuit is considered in the “Discovery” phase. But since, plaintiffs do not have any “entitlement” or “constructional right to due process” and visa bulletin is a courtesy and there is no law for this, what is the lawsuit planning to discover?

I guess my question is why is talk geared towards proving that their calculations were wrong? (The calculations have always been question even before this VB issue). Looks to me, the lawsuit is intent on teaching them how to calculate dates correctly? This looks irrelevant to the original complaint.

This might be just me and I hate lawyer lingo. Wasted time but it was fun.
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I read a little about the lawsuit since we are just waiting for news (any news).
Here is one issue about the lawsuit (although my lawyer-IQ is zero). The judge is saying that he does not think the lawsuit based on merits is likely to succeed because “Plaintiff’s only support for this argument is declarations of other immigration attorneys opining on the matter.”

Quote from the judge order:
“Defendants also assert, without citation, that the “issuance of the Visa Bulletin prior to its effective date is a courtesy that is not required by statute.” Dkt. #13 at 12. The Court simply cannot find Plaintiffs are likely to succeed on a due process claim when they cannot point to any law establishing that a Visa Bulletin can create a constitutional right to due process, and Defendants present evidence clearly calling into question the reasonableness of Plaintiffs relying on these Visa Bulletins to create “a legitimate claim of entitlement.” Plaintiffs thus fail to demonstrate a likelihood of success on the merits at this time.”

So I think now the lawsuit is considered in the “Discovery” phase. But since, plaintiffs do not have any “entitlement” or “constructional right to due process” and visa bulletin is a courtesy and there is no law for this, what is the lawsuit planning to discover?

I guess my question is why is talk geared towards proving that their calculations were wrong? (The calculations have always been question even before this VB issue). Looks to me, the lawsuit is intent on teaching them how to calculate dates correctly? This looks irrelevant to the original complaint.

This might be just me and I hate lawyer lingo. Wasted time but it was fun.
If any of the plaintiffs in this lawsuit follow these threads in IV, I urge you to drop out of the class action and encourage others to do so. If there are no plaintiffs, the liar will be forced to drop it.
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If any of the plaintiffs in this lawsuit follow these threads in IV, I urge you to drop out of the class action and encourage others to do so. If there are no plaintiffs, the liar will be forced to drop it.
I mean if we imagine both parties with their calculation spreadsheets. Each will be like, your assumption 4 is wrong. My assumption 2 is correct. And so on. Each will ask “how did you calculate spillover?” Ummmmm, last year? How did you get that?

I would hate to be the judge on that one.
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What's going on now any news of what the next action items are? I see no updates from IV after the action item to call local congressmen and women. I understand/hope IV is working in the background but atleast some sort of communications or actions items would be great. All I see now in these forums or people shaming each other and trying to prove themselves better than others. Hoping to hear from IV soon.
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If any of the plaintiffs in this lawsuit follow these threads in IV, I urge you to drop out of the class action and encourage others to do so. If there are no plaintiffs, the liar will be forced to drop it.
Well there is money + idiots that are good in Maths.
So lawyer will submit the documents and use discovery to get more documents to do more breaking news reveals to keep the case alive. In the end there will not be any relief. Just a few documents internal about calculations that will help people calculate and more accurately predict next bulletin if possible. This will keep going on and more people will be drawn to predict. But then their prediction will fail sometimes or come true some times.

Lawsuit promotes astrology and will hurt advocacy IMHO
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What's going on now any news of what the next action items are? I see no updates from IV after the action item to call local congressmen and women. I understand/hope IV is working in the background but atleast some sort of communications or actions items would be great. All I see now in these forums or people shaming each other and trying to prove themselves better than others. Hoping to hear from IV soon.
Check the state chapters on Facebook. Mine had some info.
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Ehhh negative....I'm part of California chapter as I live here and there are no updates whatsoever. Can you post here what info you have so that the rest of the world can see it as well. Thanks for your help in advance.
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When to File Your Adjustment of Status Application for Family Sponsored or Employment-Based Preference Visas | USCIS

New Visa Bulletin Charts
The Visa Bulletin will now have two different charts because of the revised procedures. DOS will post two charts per visa preference category in the DOS Visa Bulletin. The charts are:

Application Final Action Dates (dates when visas may finally be issued); and
Dates for Filing Applications (earliest dates when applicants may be able to apply).
When USCIS determines there are immigrant visas available for the filing of additional adjustment of status applications, the Dates for Filing Applications chart may be used to determine when to file an adjustment of status application with USCIS. Otherwise, the Application Final Action Dates chart must be used to determine when to file an adjustment of status application with USCIS. USCIS will determine which chart is effective for the following month approximately one week after DOS publishes and we will post that chart on this page.

In coordination with the DOS, USCIS will monitor visa numbers each month and post the relevant chart on this page under When to File.
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I must say IV silence is killing me & at the same time I've got a good feeling about this. Hope for the best or Miracle
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When to File Your Adjustment of Status Application for Family Sponsored or Employment-Based Preference Visas | USCIS

New Visa Bulletin Charts
The Visa Bulletin will now have two different charts because of the revised procedures. DOS will post two charts per visa preference category in the DOS Visa Bulletin. The charts are:

Application Final Action Dates (dates when visas may finally be issued); and
Dates for Filing Applications (earliest dates when applicants may be able to apply).
When USCIS determines there are immigrant visas available for the filing of additional adjustment of status applications, the Dates for Filing Applications chart may be used to determine when to file an adjustment of status application with USCIS. Otherwise, the Application Final Action Dates chart must be used to determine when to file an adjustment of status application with USCIS. USCIS will determine which chart is effective for the following month approximately one week after DOS publishes and we will post that chart on this page.

In coordination with the DOS, USCIS will monitor visa numbers each month and post the relevant chart on this page under When to File.
... and your point is?
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I must say IV silence is killing me & at the same time I've got a good feeling about this. Hope for the best or Miracle
IV is silent because they aint got shit...lol....there is no miracle cooking either...we are in the mercy of uscis ..
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... and your point is?
USCIS still has not come out and said they will accept the Date of Filing table for November VB. It is an indication that DHS/USCIS is fighting with DOS and DHS wants more time to say yes/no to the Date of Filing published by DOS. Taking control of shit.
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