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Old 10-23-2015, 09:48 AM
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There is a hidden sly and negative message in Ramlingam posts. He thinks like other forums people will be naive here too to believe in whatever is thrown at them. He has no idea how IV members savvy are in US politics
People here have actual lobbying experience...
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:52 AM
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We need to focus on this petition - http://wh.gov/iEjxi to show our strength. We need atleast 5k signatures by EOD! We must UNITE!!!
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Old 10-23-2015, 09:59 AM
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We need to focus on this petition - http://wh.gov/iEjxi to show our strength. We need atleast 5k signatures by EOD! We must UNITE!!!
I like this petition, after all. I lost my money on the stupid lawsuit. Can this petition be made viral in Twitter? Someone twitted this yesterday, and I wanted to RT, but I am new to twitter world, and not have many followers. I can do it over FB? Any suggestions?
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Just FYI....speaking of petitions. .

We are about to enter our congressman local office with a real petition that people took the time to sign manually.

On doubts, yes there are doubts but we will not abandon the efforts just because. ..

Go IV volunteers (this time including me for the first time in person)

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Just FYI....speaking of petitions. .

We are about to enter our congressman local office with a real petition that people took the time to sign manually.

On doubts, yes there are doubts but we will not abandon the efforts just because. ..

Go IV volunteers (this time including me for the first time in person)

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Just FYI....speaking of petitions. .

We are about to enter our congressman local office with a real petition that people took the time to sign manually.

On doubts, yes there are doubts but we will not abandon the efforts just because. ..

Go IV volunteers (this time including me for the first time in person)

Cheers.
First step towards real advocacy is the best, biggest and boldest step you have taken in your life. You get cosponsorship or not, it will open a completely new window in your life, which will be very hard to close again.

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I signed the WH petition. http://wh.gov/iEjxi because I lost my money on the lawsuit, and I would like to get my money back.

However, after going through the language of the petition, I am having serious doubt about values of such petitions. It is although a very sincere petition but extremely sarcastic. This means that anyone can create a petition, even a WH petition - and people can sign it. Do you really think WH actually cares about these petitions? Signing these petitions looks like a grand waste of time! ……. I am feeling very demotivated after this.
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I signed the WH petition. http://wh.gov/iEjxi because I lost my money on the lawsuit, and I would like to get my money back.

However, after going through the language of the petition, I am having serious doubt about values of such petitions. It is although a very sincere petition but extremely sarcastic. This means that anyone can create a petition, even a WH petition - and people can sign it. Do you really think WH actually cares about these petitions? Signing these petitions looks like a grand waste of time! ……. I am feeling very demotivated after this.
Exact reasons why we discourage such petitions. We don't want people to have unwanted expectations. Everyone who follows IV can vouch for that.
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Exact reasons why we discourage such petitions. We don't want people to have unwanted expectations. Everyone who follows IV can vouch for that.
Buttt Buttttt Butttttttttt Buttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT IF WE GET 100K SIGNATURES THIS TIME??????

-FU
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Hil or senior admins I am going to send below response to our congresswoman Susan brooks in Indiana. Please let me know if this is good. I am going to team with Viskon to personally meet her as well. But I am going to send this response before we meet up as well.

Thank you Congresswoman for the Reply. I have a masters from Texas A & M university and have worked in Carmel for 8 years now. I planning on establishing my own IT company.
This bill will clear the immigration backlog for people from India and China. Currently since I am an Indian citizen it takes close to 15 years to get a green card for me.
Green Card will allow me to establish a company. This bill will not increase Green Card count or H1B visa count. So it will not affect job opportunities for Americans as well.
It merely distributes the percentage of green cards allocated between various countries. This bill actually adds more jobs to economy by allowing immigrants like me to establish IT companies.
I would really appreciate you taking another look at the bill with a view to co-sponsoring it. I personally know few of my friends who are waiting in Hamilton county affected by the green card backlog.
You can also reach out to Congressman's Chaffetz's office about details of this bill if you have any questions.
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Thank you Congresswoman for the Reply. I have a masters from Texas A & M university and have worked in Carmel for 8 years now. I planning on establishing my own IT company.
This bill will clear the immigration backlog for people from India and China. Currently since I am an Indian citizen it takes close to 15 years to get a green card for me.
Green Card will allow me to establish a company. This bill will not increase Green Card count or H1B visa count. So it will not affect job opportunities for Americans as well.
It merely distributes the percentage of green cards allocated between various countries. This bill actually adds more jobs to economy by allowing immigrants like me to establish IT companies.
I would really appreciate you taking another look at the bill with a view to co-sponsoring it. I personally know few of my friends in Hamilton county affected by the green card backlog.
You can also reach out to Congressman's Chaffetz's office about details of this bill if you have any questions.
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Buttt Buttttt Butttttttttt Buttttttttttt!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT IF WE GET 100K SIGNATURES THIS TIME??????

-FU
Yes we can.

Apart from what you have said in the petition, I can promise that I will myself do hunger strike sitting in front of the computer in front of IV homepage in my cubicle before my lunch time!
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Exact reasons why we discourage such petitions. We don't want people to have unwanted expectations. Everyone who follows IV can vouch for that.
It is also a waste of time.

There are 100's of petitions out there and people think they have 1111 days to gather 22222222 signatures - in the mistaken assumption that something earth shattering will happen.

We know exactly which 25 year old intern will look at the petition. If the petitioners are VERY VERY VERY lucky - you get the signatures AND the 25 year old intern from Ohio state University actually understands the petition, it will get to his bosses boss - who will spend the afternoon writing a polite "f*** off" response.

Meanwhile we could have picked up the phone and got someone useful to atleast give the issue honest consideration - like we have been doing for I140-EAD since early 2014.


The only people who want you to sign digital petitions are idiots and Lawyers Groups - whose agenda is to keep you busy with useless things so you can stay on H1 forever.

Hope people learn something from this Underwood character and stop posting links to petitions on our website - we are getting tired of editing posts and explaining the same thing over and over.


If instead of running around looking for people to sign petitions, people started working on actual contact with lawmakers to solve this problem, the backlog problem will be solved faster and people will have more time to do other things in life.
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