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Old 11-17-2015, 02:05 PM
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Lobbying is a fascinating - almost addictive experience. It is also very empowering.

You get to see everyone's true face.

We have always bemoaned a lack of participation in our D.C. lobby days. Honestly, I feel as if people that don't show up are the ones who are missing out.

On the forums, you see maybe 0.5% of whats actually going on.
This bill will pass and should pass,,,really disgusted by how indian IT firms are operating
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You should be disgusted by the inaction of your peers who do nothing, despite being stuck in the backlogs for tens of years. Vent your frustration at those who complain about the broken system but put no efforts to fix it
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How about scaring our peers with the Durbin-Grassley bill? I should tell them I will personally start seeking co sponsorship for the Durbin-Grassley bill unless they join HR213 team? . Screw them!
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how about scaring our peers with the durbin-grassley bill? I should tell them i will personally start seeking co sponsorship for the durbin-grassley bill unless they join hr213 team? . Screw them!:d
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Talking about scaring people with D-G bill.....

H-1B, L-1 Visa Overhaul Bill Stokes Business Concerns - Law360

And they spoke finally!
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About this bill a lawyer said on twitter that

Cyrus Mehta
Those in favor of skilled immigrant GCs, but anti H1B, any push for restrictions against some come back to hurt all - need more GCs + H1Bs



He also said that

Cyrus Mehta Retweeted Gov. Bobby Jindal
As an Indian American I am ashamed of you; regret attending India Abroad function where they once gave you an award
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About this bill a lawyer said on twitter that

Cyrus Mehta
Those in favor of skilled immigrant GCs, but anti H1B, any push for restrictions against some come back to hurt all - need more GCs + H1Bs



He also said that

Cyrus Mehta Retweeted Gov. Bobby Jindal
As an Indian American I am ashamed of you; regret attending India Abroad function where they once gave you an award
First of all, we have never understood this obsession with what immigration lawyers say. None of these lawyers have any say in the policy making process. We believe that these lawyers just speak for themselves on how to increase their own revenue. As we have said before, we believe that immigration lawyers are pro-immigration - meaning they want more people to come into US so that can get more business. But at the same time, we believe that most of these immigration lawyers are anti-immigrants, because they NEVER EVER talk about the exploitation and abuses of immigrants on H1 and L1 visas.

We don't even know what this person is trying to say in these tweets, whosoever he is or claims to be. If he is referring to us, then he is just throwing out bunch of baloney and misrepresenting IV. IV is not against H1B. IV is not in favor of increasing or decreasing H1B visas. We have always advocated for rights of people on H1B visas, including right to access to their own immigration paper work, right to be able to change employer with as much ease, and the right to live free, without being shackled or bonded to the employer. Perhaps immigration lawyers think that is wrong thing to ask because their business thrives on the fact that immigrants on H1/L1 have fewer rights.

If this guy is referring to us, then tell him that those people who asked for more rights for African American slaves prior to 1865, those people were not anti-African Americans. Those people were pro-African Americans. Likewise, IV is asking for rights of people on H1. IV is not anti-H1B, instead, if anything, IV is pro-H1B. And these immigration lawyers are anti-H1B because they refuse to speak up for the rights of humans/people on H1B visa who are being exploited and abused by their employers.

I presume this person is an immigration lawyer with Indian American background. Since most of the people being exploited on H1B visa are immigrants from Indian decent, let me make him eat his own words -

As an Indian American I am ashamed of this person because he seem to want more H1Bs, when everyone knows that there is widespread exploitation and abuse of Indian immigrants on H1B and L1 visas. This person doesn't speak up against exploitation of immigrants on H1B visa from India. Instead, he chooses to get more people from India on H1B and wants to increase H1B visas without asking for the rights of these people. We believe such people are hypocrites.

We believe that this person applies different standard of morals. We think if there is anyone who is anti-H1B, then that's people like him.
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Lobbying is a fascinating - almost addictive experience. It is also very empowering.

You get to see everyone's true face.

We have always bemoaned a lack of participation in our D.C. lobby days. Honestly, I feel as if people that don't show up are the ones who are missing out.

On the forums, you see maybe 0.5% of whats actually going on.

Nicely said. And you are right. One trip to DC is all it took. Was a life changing experience.
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Article about Durbin Grassley with a few blurbs about IV: Immigration Bill Could Challenge Tech’s Ongoing Fight For Skilled Worker Visas | TechCrunch
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FYI...Another H-1B bill and that too only two pages?


http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/sit...eform_Bill.pdf
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FYI...Another H-1B bill and that too only two pages?


http://www.billnelson.senate.gov/sit...eform_Bill.pdf
This is an even better bill! Prioritizing the highest salaries first cuts out the cheap Indian outsourcing firms as well as the low cost commodity developers.
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What a bunch of BS. This guarantees that many non-IT and almost all non technical professions will never get a visa. This must be a election year grandstanding bill with no future.
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We must post why the bill is good and why it is bad explaining it on detail ? People should hear both sides.
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It's not long that I have been in US just about 2 years now. I have been following IV for a while now since I came to know about it from my friend.
I appreciate and support the work IV does by donating.
I would really like to make a point here, seems like we are getting up in the wrong discussion.
Some people here are making the suggestion since I am here and my rights are not being ensured, please don't let people come here anymore.
This "Shut the down behind me" is not have IV as I have known as a third party is not all about. Maybe its not IV's stand at all but people in the forum are making it seem so. This is a land of immigrants and everyone with the opportunity and will should be given a chance.

Thank you for what IV does. And before some starts yelling at me for getting involved in advocacy, NO I haven't been involved in any.
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It's not long that I have been in US just about 2 years now. I have been following IV for a while now since I came to know about it from my friend.
I appreciate and support the work IV does by donating.
I would really like to make a point here, seems like we are getting up in the wrong discussion.
Some people here are making the suggestion since I am here and my rights are not being ensured, please don't let people come here anymore.
This "Shut the down behind me" is not have IV as I have known as a third party is not all about. Maybe its not IV's stand at all but people in the forum are making it seem so. This is a land of immigrants and everyone with the opportunity and will should be given a chance.

Thank you for what IV does. And before some starts yelling at me for getting involved in advocacy, NO I haven't been involved in any.
You got wrong information. It is an open forum and everyone can air views on both sides of discussion. That does not mean IV is of view of that. IV view is at ImmigrationVoice.org - About Immigration Voice
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