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Default Meeting with Congressman Keith Ellison, MN

Keith Ellison, Congressman from MN was in Milwaukee, WI today.
I had a chance to meet with him on a small gathering for his fund raiser.

He is a member of Judiciary commitee.

We asked him questions on how to become more active in Politics, how Congress works etc etc.

He gave a good example:
He said politicians are like a mom with many kids..one kid is labor union asking for help for their issues, other is teachers union etc etc.
And if one kid is shy and does not say anything then he is not going to get anything.

Point is very simple, Congress needs to heard like crazy from legal Immigrants about issues. So please on Mon during lunch call your congressman every day for next week. Send them faxes, emails etc.
So when they vote they know that what are issues for legal immigrants.

If you don't then you won't get anything. It is that simple.

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Old 06-03-2007, 02:57 AM
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This came up to my mind : In senate there was voting on whether to bring immigration bill or not on to table , voting is around 60+ - 30+ , now these 30+ are sure they are going to reject it atleast with 90% confidence. we need to target the remaining 60 more compared to 30 who are already against to senate bill. This is very imp i dont know how to gather those details any help please ?
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Thanks. When you get a chance can you please send web faxes. It is under main menu on the left side.
You can send the faxes to all 50 states. Please update the web fax thread once you are done!

Thank you again!

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Keith Ellison, Congressman from MN was in Milwaukee, WI today.
I had a chance to meet with him on a small gathering for his fund raiser.

He is a member of Judiciary commitee.

We asked him questions on how to become more active in Politics, how Congress works etc etc.

He gave a good example:
He said politicians are like a mom with many kids..one kid is labor union asking for help for their issues, other is teachers union etc etc.
And if one kid is shy and does not say anything then he is not going to get anything.

Point is very simple, Congress needs to heard like crazy from legal Immigrants about issues. So please on Mon during lunch call your congressman every day for next week. Send them faxes, emails etc.
So when they vote they know that what are issues for legal immigrants.

If you don't then you won't get anything. It is that simple.

thanks,
engineer
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Old 06-03-2007, 03:10 AM
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Default webfax

I didnot like the webfax as it doesnot cover wishes of many people like me. People who have approved Perm should be allowed to file I140 and I1485 under old system even if Point Based system becomes law.

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Default webfax

Though I sent webfaxes, But I am not very convinced.
Its same text in every fax. Its not personalized.

For senatores it will be a spam kind of thing. So many faxes with just different name but same text.

I am not also happy about language. Its not very effective!!!
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This came up to my mind : In senate there was voting on whether to bring immigration bill or not on to table , voting is around 60+ - 30+ , now these 30+ are sure they are going to reject it atleast with 90% confidence. we need to target the remaining 60 more compared to 30 who are already against to senate bill. This is very imp i dont know how to gather those details any help please ?
I agree with bigboy007 that we should only focus on INTRESTED senators/congressman
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Originally Posted by engineer
Keith Ellison, Congressman from MN was in Milwaukee, WI today.
I had a chance to meet with him on a small gathering for his fund raiser.

He is a member of Judiciary commitee.

We asked him questions on how to become more active in Politics, how Congress works etc etc.

He gave a good example:
He said politicians are like a mom with many kids..one kid is labor union asking for help for their issues, other is teachers union etc etc.
And if one kid is shy and does not say anything then he is not going to get anything.

Point is very simple, Congress needs to heard like crazy from legal Immigrants about issues. So please on Mon during lunch call your congressman every day for next week. Send them faxes, emails etc.
So when they vote they know that what are issues for legal immigrants.

If you don't then you won't get anything. It is that simple.

thanks,
engineer

Hey

buddy nice post , did u get a chance to discuss any of our issues with the congressman?
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If you don't like web-fax then you can make phone call or send email with your message in it. Also please contribute to IV.
What do you think?




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You can call or send email with your personalized message.
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Though I sent webfaxes, But I am not very convinced.
Its same text in every fax. Its not personalized.

For senatores it will be a spam kind of thing. So many faxes with just different name but same text.

I am not also happy about language. Its not very effective!!!
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numbers are critical to lawmakers and so...
don't think of this as spam!
if it was useless orgs like AILA, ALIPAC and NumbersUSA would not be bothering with webfaxes to lawmakers.
the legislative staff bunch them together and gauge the numbers of people interested in a particular provision or specific relief. therefore the emalils and the webfaxes, even though they have standard language are critical.
As for including every single provision and relief in the webfax, this would not work. It has to be concise and specific with some core issues highlighted- remember iv works with major lobbying firms and certainly has input from people with a lot of experience. Webfaxes and e mails do buy access though for our core team and lobbyists and highlight our issue. Once that is achieved we have a much better chance of getting friendly amendments with various different kinds of relief- including things not specifically mentioned in the webfax itself.

Having said this, it does not stop members from ALSO writing individual e mails to lawmakers highlighting our problems in your own language. I have done so myself and had very encouraging success in getting specific personal responses from the staff of some lawmakers. You all know who friendly senators are, write to them specifically by all means highlighting your individual problems, end my mentioning iv and it's work for skilled immigrants. I even posted the iv message at the end of my personalized e mails.

Please send the iv web fax and e mails and do make the additional efforts as well. and don't forget to contribute...
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