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Default Text of Hagel Martinez Bill- S2612

Attached is the text of Bill Frist's new bill. As reported in other news articles, it increases the overall EB quota to 450,000 for the next 10 years and 290,000 after that. Since the distribution across EB-1, EB-2 and EB-3 are at 15%, 15% and 35% respectively, this in effect means a 50% bump in the quota for all of us
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Looks like it still has hard country quoto limit
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Default What does it means? from Aila Web site

Text of the Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006, as Modified in Bipartisan Negotiations During Senate Floor Consideration
Cite as "AILA InfoNet Doc. No. 06041362 (posted Apr. 13, 2006)"


S. 2611 and S. 2612 reflect the Hagel-Martinez compromise modifying the Senate Judiciary Committee's immigration reform bill plus a variety of new provisions (including some of the amendments that were pending when the bill was pulled from the Floor by Senator Frist). Though the bills are identical in content except for the order of the sponsors, S. 2611 and S. 2612 would be subject to different procedural paths. The bill with Specter as the lead sponsor could be treated as a new bill that could be marked up in the Judiciary Committee once again. The bill with Hagel and Martinez as the lead sponsors could be brought straight to the Senate Floor under Rule 14.


Ps by the way, what a mess.....
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Default Read from page 314 onwards in the bill

Good jump in number BUT what about hard cap & I-485 filing???

Is is included in it ?

Will Brownback ammendment be applicable to this bill??

Or another Brownback ammendment for this bill has to be brought in??

Wise core guys... please share your wisdom

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Sounds good on paper but we all have seen what has happened to other bills like this one. This one seems like a cut & paste work comprising several bills and has little or no chance better than the ones before it.
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Good jump in number BUT what about hard cap & I-485 filing???

Is is included in it ?

Will Brownback ammendment be applicable to this bill??

Or another Brownback ammendment for this bill has to be brought in??

Wise core guys... please share your wisdom

thanks
Yes, the hard cap persists unfortunately and yes, it will have to be removed somehow(with amendments or otherwise) or else the retrogression will probably continue for EB2 and EB3 for India, China and Phillipines EVEN WITH 450,000. And 450,000 may not survive conference with house and may come down to 290,000 or close.

Obviously, our work is cut out for us.
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All,

Having read the fine print and compared it to the previous version.

The only change as far as we are concerned is the 450,000 for 10 years, which will revert to 290,000 after that (see page 315).

(1) Will this make retrogression go away?

The short answer is NO. The existence of the hard country cap ensures that retrogression will continue. Remember that even with record approvals due to soft cap in 2005, retrogression set in, and even with these higher numbers, due to hard caps, backlogs for retrogressed countries won't be cleared.

(2) Do we need to change our amendments?

NO.

(3) What good does this do?

IF, and that is a big IF, the 450,000 survives conference and negotiations, visa dates will move forward somewhat faster.

So we simply go back to regularly scheduled programming -- working to get our amendments in to the base bill. Working as hard as we have ever done.

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Relief in EB1 and EB2 category is possible

'Aliens with Certian Advanced Degrees are not subject
to numerical limitations on employment based immigrants'

This likely will free up many EB1 and EB2 slots!
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But, because of hard cap limit, there will not be any affect for EB3 India/China/Philiphines etc.
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Relief in EB1 and EB2 category is possible

'Aliens with Certian Advanced Degrees are not subject
to numerical limitations on employment based immigrants'

This likely will free up many EB1 and EB2 slots!
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Default Very good Question !!

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... why don't they give H1B with per country limits?
This is a very interesting and good question. Should be used in our arguments for removing the hard cap on per country limits ... my 2 cents ...
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Default 203(b) refers to Aggrevated felony

203(b) refers to Aggrevated felony
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Hi,
Note: 203(b) refers to the all employment based categories I think. I am not sure.
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Hi,
I noticed the following in this bill at page 322, section 305 (shortage of occupations):
An amendment on exception to numerical limitation.

Please read and see whether it says everybody in 203(b) will be exempted from the numerical limitation until 2017? Or does it mean everybody other than those in 203(b) will be exempted until 2017?


Note: 203(b) refers to the all employment based categories I think. I am not sure.
Tom,

You're missing the (II) paragraph. What it means is that those EB based applicants who work in a field classified by DOL as having a shortage, will be exempted from the quota.
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203(b) refers to Aggrevated felony
203(b) of the Immigration and Naturalizaiton Act refers to Employment based categories.
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page 316, section 502 states the country quota will be increased to 10%.
This has been in all the bills brought forward for Comprehensive Immigration Bill. Nothing new.
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Default Page 319 Section B - Looks interesting

Priority in allocating Visa

Secerotory shall reserve 30% of such visas to qualified immigrants who were phisically present in US before Jan 7, 2004

Can anybody interpret. I am thinking this is in addition to EB quotos. People who were in US before Jan 7, 2004 get additional 30%.
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