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Old 07-09-2007, 10:54 PM
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Hope "Flower Campaign" will not irritate USCIS and backfire on us, to tough the immigration process.
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Old 07-09-2007, 11:02 PM
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So you are of the opinion that there is worse which can happen.

To me this latest I485 filing issue is about as low at it gets. Specially the way it was handled, and the stick approach afterwords with no regrets by any one. (amongst others FBI name checks, retrogression, Country Caps, etc. etc.)

Some Keywords to ponder on / References.

Rice, Condoleezza - A little Inconvenience for applicants
Journalists - Wrinkle in reporting numbers by USCIS


Lets respect ourselves a little better and take a stand, not be docile and humble specially when given the stick. The tougher the immigration gets, the better, provided its dealt fairly and unequivocally.

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Old 07-09-2007, 11:05 PM
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Hope "Flower Campaign" will not irritate USCIS and backfire on us, to tough the immigration process.
It's too late there's a big stick up your ass already how much farther can they really push it in.
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It's too late there's a big stick up your ass already how much farther can they really push it in.

too good!! well said!!
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There is a story that all flowers received will be forwarded to injured service members at a medical center.
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White flowers to recovering soldiers, don't make sense to me ..
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May the government discriminate against non-citizens in matters not related to their admissions to the United States?
Among the most important sources of legal protection against governmental discrimination or abuse are the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments to the Constitution. They provide that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law and that no person shall be deprived of the equal protection of the laws. Thus, the right to due process, equal protection and the other fundamental rights that are encompassed by these principles apply to all persons in the United States, including non-citizens.

Which law would we be breaking by sending flowers?
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Hope "Flower Campaign" will not irritate USCIS and backfire on us, to tough the immigration process.
This is a classic example of impotent mind. If you fear to send flowers then you do not deserve even permanent residency of the country where you born

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This is a classic example of impotent mind. If you fear to send flowers then you do not deserve even permanent residency of the country where you born
Take it easy - he was just voicing his opinion.
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So USCIS will never see the flowers becoz they are boxed.. and they will never get delivered becoz they are being routed from the airport itself. No major news media covered the few deliveries at USCIS.. What was the point of the campaign again?

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Originally Posted by nixstor
For those of you who is interested in one line Q/A

"Is the flower campaign working? Yes"

"Are we good enough with what we have done? Not 100%"

What happened

We were at the loading dock by 10 30 am ( Delivery estimate was between 11 am and 1 pm) and DHL appeared to
have already delivered around 50 boxes once around 9 am. All the flowers we sent are boxed . The visuals will
be boxes and not flowers in the evening when the youtube video will be uploaded. UPS delivered nex. We got the
video of the whole delivery and so did the CNN-IBN/Voice of America folks. There were around 30 boxes or so from
UPS. Next Fedex delivered and there were around 10-15 boxes coming out. While we were doing the recording one of the
officers politely told us not to capture federal buildings and we told them that we were only capturing the delivery of
flowers. After this what ever truck was coming in, they were reversing and pushing back into the dock so that the
delivery cannot be taped. CNN-IBN reporter asked for permission to go inside the loading dock and she was promptly
denied any permission. Then We had a down pour for almost 20-30 minutes and we had to leave the place.
It appears that the S&H dept now knows that most of the flowers are being delivered by DHL/UPS/FEDEX, they are taking
care of the diversion at National airport it self.

In the future if any one wants to do a flower campaign, Please select 2 local florists
(only two florists, in that particular city) and have people call and place orders/online. That way
we can talk with 2 florists and track their delivery easily for picture/video. Every one who tried to call
FTD/proflowers had alot of trouble getting any thing out of them. Actually, we cant blame them because they
are not doing it locally,instead they are putting their orders via national carriers.

Where do we go from here

If people really want to go out and get the main stream media attention, DC is the perfect choice. How ever,Don't plan on a weekend. If we do it right, we could be live on TV and the whole country will ask whats going on, along with the law makers. That will offer a platform for solving the issue at its roots.If you really want to do this, Dont come up with reasons like I dont have time off for a day or I have a project due. I can understand if 1 or 2% of our active members say it, but when 98% of our active members say that I can understand what it is. May be its time we figure out whether we prefer anonymity and pontifical verbatim on the online forum to expressing our concern/disappointment openly. Do not get offended and start flaming me. Just my thoughts.
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There is a story that all flowers received will be forwarded to injured service members at a medical center.
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/usc...0045f3d6a1RCRD
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