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Default Is IV discussing EB/Housing crisis issues with lawmakers

There have been several threads on this. I know IV was looking into it. Any update on this ????


I can't see a better time to help the US economy if we can buy houses for faster GC.

IV should make this top priority and discuss with the President staff directly.
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i agree. how about sending flowers to precident with message that if half million legal immigrant waiting in EB get GC, will definitely buy home, so it will help to improve US Housing crisis.
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i agree. how about sending flowers to precident with message that if half million legal immigrant waiting in EB get GC, will definitely buy home, so it will help to improve US Housing crisis.
You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.

Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.

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sending flowers did work for us.

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You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.

Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf years. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
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sending flowers did work for us.
Care to tell me how?

It was lawsuit filed by AILA, efforts by IV and other groups that reversed the decision. Gandhigiri in this country has very little value. This country works on laws/court system. We need to get laws to help us and we need support groups like IV to make that happen. Or else we can pray to God to shower some green.
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Did AILA actually file a lawsuit?

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Care to tell me how?

It was lawsuit filed by AILA, efforts by IV and other groups that reversed the decision. Gandhigiri in this country has very little value. This country works on laws/court system. We need to get laws to help us and we need support groups like IV to make that happen. Or else we can pray to God to shower some green.
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i was thinking...

500000 legal immigrants, even if u assume 4 per family , ONLY 125000 houses can be sold...(even if 50% qualify for a loan.. thats just 62500 houses sold.. last i read..there were millions of homes for sale)
if the average cost of the house is 250000, thats additional 31.25 Billion $ in credit borrowing... where is the money?
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Did AILA actually file a lawsuit?
http://www.ailf.org/lac/lac_lit_visab.shtml
http://www.murthy.com/ailf_lawsuit.html#Update6

They obtained authorization to file the lawsuit. They had it prepared to file and received good response from possible plaintiffs. It was possibility of good strong case by AILA that deterred USCIS to reverse the decision without a formal lawsuit. This is exactly what we need to further our cause. USCIS could care less about other petty tricks. They will only understand language of laws/court. For that we need congress to pass laws favoring us.
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i was thinking...

500000 legal immigrants, even if u assume 4 per family , ONLY 125000 houses can be sold...(even if 50% qualify for a loan.. thats just 62500 houses sold.. last i read..there were millions of homes for sale)
if the average cost of the house is 250000, thats additional 31.25 Billion $ in credit borrowing... where is the money?
Average cost of house nowadays is 200k.
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My days in office are slow, I was thinking on how to pass the time, and immigration helps me easily to reach to 5:00 PM. Lets keep discussing this, keep on come on..

Someone got some more ideas which are ready to be dead in this thread..

Unity is the key guys, I dun see a single thing in IV which says, "OK guys this is our plan of action, Let's do it".

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i was thinking...

500000 legal immigrants, even if u assume 4 per family , ONLY 125000 houses can be sold...(even if 50% qualify for a loan.. thats just 62500 houses sold.. last i read..there were millions of homes for sale)
if the average cost of the house is 250000, thats additional 31.25 Billion $ in credit borrowing... where is the money?

I agree with you that this is not big enough to stop the entire crisis. But look at the cities where there are lot of immigrants. I can give you one example where it could make huge impact.
Seattle (King County) home of Microsoft has a housing inventory of 8600 single family homes around 1200 condos. It takes 10 months to clear up the inventory.
Microsoft applied around 2K new H1B last year. So my guess is it might have applied around 8k in last 4 years. Lets assume 60% of those didn't GC's. So around 5k people waiting in the line. Lets say out of which 4K didn't buy a house and are willing to buy a house. So 4K new buyers in a market which has 10K units. If every one buys house in next few months then the months of supply will become 6.
There lot of other companies located in this area which also apply for H1Bs.

So the point is immigrants can save or make big enough impact some housing markets.
Revival of housing market revives the economy. May be we should identify those markets and talk to those senators.
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wasn't the flower campaign an 'effort by IV'?

Any way, I think you don't need IV's (for that matter any organization's support) to file a law suit. If you think USCIS is breaking the law, you can file a law suit with the help of a lawyer. A couple of $100 is all that would cost you.

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It was lawsuit filed by AILA, efforts by IV and other groups that reversed the decision. Gandhigiri in this country has very little value. This country works on laws/court system. We need to get laws to help us and we need support groups like IV to make that happen. Or else we can pray to God to shower some green.
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You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship? I don't see this going very far. I can see anti immigrants waiting for this one. Best is to lobby using aides of big corporations, developing relationship with lobbyists who already have connections, hiring lawyers, developing strong case, donations in election campaigns etc. All of this needs loads and loads of money. Are we ready to donate to IV and build strong lobbying group for our cause? That is the only way to change our current situation.

Sending flowers, sending pizzas, sending all these proposals will only fall on deaf ears. Congress understands language of money to pass laws, Rest of the country/orgranizations understand language of laws/court.
For those who think assisting US economy by buy houses (for pending GC applicants) is like selling a GC are just plain dumb! No wonder why we dont have a resolution to the 10 yr waiting that's been killing EB immigrants, is because ppl like you, who love to take pain want others to live through this for the lifetime.

People have been waiting for 10+ years here waiting to get GC, waiting patiently, waiting so patiently that we are getting mentally sick waiting and waiting. How do u think the quota system is ..its not fair in the first place for EB immigrants when we are already here on H/L visas... . So dude pls stop ur bull shit and dont discourage by coming up with ridiculous statements "You mean to say sell US real estate for GC/citizenship?"

We the prospective, EB immigrants want to settle here. Its more than a home here already if you are living and paying taxes for 10+ years.. We just want to buy a house and a permanent visa status is only going to help. Its a win-win situation for both sides....
We are not looking them to sell GC for houses to ppl who are residing outside. This is a relief mechanism for ppl who are waiting and waiting and just plain waiting here in the EB queue!

Ok.. now go and think..do u enjoy pain or want to do anything about it!

I would strongly urge IV to take this and would be willing help and have a dialogue with any state/congress representative they want me to.... How do u think it wont' fly. US govt is spending and bailing out trillions of dollars to help cure this cause. If we buy houses, it is only going to help the cause. Most of us have good credit score and can afford to buy houses, this will only help the very thing that the govt. is trying to stabilize.

I'm surprised, how come IV is not aggressively pursuing this. What better way to help everyone here. If they want to address the fundamental issues they certainly can, but this the immediate focus and like quota recapture, will provide immediate relief to decades long wait for applicants!

So pls stop disparaging the effort. Its a good cause for both sides.
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the trouble is that people / everyone (including me) ..are thinking more about solutions but not doing anything.
for a change can We just Do Something about Immi mess and Think afterwards ????
the sad part is that there is no directions from IV core and they seem to be in deep winter slumber
has anyone noticed lately, ever since the July 07 fiasco... there hasn't been anything on radar from IV..what's happening..not trying to belittle efforts from IV..but guys most of us are waiting to hear from you..
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