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Retrogression, priority dates and Visa bulletins Issues surrounding the retrogression of the priority dates for the various employment based categories

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Old 06-08-2009, 06:57 PM
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Default july 2009 visa bulletin out ..

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bu...etin_4512.html

No change compared to June 2009 except that China EB2 has moved back to Jan 2000.

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Old 06-08-2009, 07:02 PM
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so no spill over from EB2 ROW which is current ,to India and China EB2.
I guess many folks were having high hopes for this in the last quarter.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:03 PM
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Welcome to the club, China!
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:03 PM
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That "small change" of EB2 China PD is very important. It suggests that there is going to be "Spill over" so EB2 India and China will have to move together to use the unused numbers. A good sign; at least EB1 retrogression does not seem to be likely and there will be some spill over numbers to EB2 India (EB2 china may not benefit much as it had a PD later than that for the rest of the year.

Scorpion: how can you say "no spill over". EB2ROW is current and so spill over is likely (more likely from EB1 and even to some extent from EB2 ROW)
Moreover, EB2 ROW remained current meaning that they have not used all their quota; they will not use any spillover numbers and they may even provide spill over numbers to EB2 India and China.
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PERM filed: Feb 2008 Chicago Processing Center
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I 140 filed: April 2008 Nebraska Service Center
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EB1A: I 140 filed: July 2009. Approved 12/09
EB2 NIW: I 140 filed: July 2009. Approved 12/09
I-485 filed Dec 2009
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:04 PM
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Same old stuff. I dont see a light at the end of the tunnel till some immigration reform bill gets shoved in or a comprehensive immigration bill is introduced.

The obama administration is not in a mood to touch immigration and we live to be scape goats of policies back from 90's.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:08 PM
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Welcome to the club, China!
What is the status of unused Eb1 /Eb2 visas of ROW?
Will it spill over or be wasted?
GOK
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:12 PM
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Talking EB2 - 15 years, EB3 - 25 Years

The rate at which USCIS is denying H1B, L1 Extensions it seems people who in In process for.

PERM
140
485 might have to wait for sometime in the following manner.

EB 2- PD 2001 - Wait till 2012
EB 2- PD 2002 - Wait till 2015
EB 2- PD 2003 - Wait till 2017
EB 2- PD 2004 - Wait till 2020
EB 2- PD 2005 - Wait till 2023
EB 2- PD 2006 - Wait till 2026
EB 2- PD 2007 - Wait till 2028
EB 2- PD 2008 - Wait till 2031


EB 3- PD 2001 - Wait till 2015
EB 3- PD 2002 - Wait till 2019
EB 3- PD 2003 - Wait till 2024
EB 3- PD 2004 - Wait till 2028
EB 3- PD 2005 - Wait till 2032
EB 3- PD 2006 - Wait till 2036
EB 3- PD 2007 - Wait till 2040
EB 3- PD 2008 - Wait till 2044....not sure how many will be alive to receive their GC...anway it is worth a wait....

I have a 12 yr old ...and mine is EB3 - 2007 ...I think my son who will be 43 by 2040 will get me perm residency.....
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:17 PM
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Plain and simple. From now on just imagine that you are working in one of those persian gulf countries - work on a visa as long as you work. This way its less stressful. If you have immigration intent, then enter illegally.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:22 PM
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You broke my heart. My kid is 5 yrs old so more wait for me.
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The rate at which USCIS is denying H1B, L1 Extensions it seems people who in In process for.

PERM
140
485 might have to wait for sometime in the following manner.

EB 2- PD 2001 - Wait till 2012
EB 2- PD 2002 - Wait till 2015
EB 2- PD 2003 - Wait till 2017
EB 2- PD 2004 - Wait till 2020
EB 2- PD 2005 - Wait till 2023
EB 2- PD 2006 - Wait till 2026
EB 2- PD 2007 - Wait till 2028
EB 2- PD 2008 - Wait till 2031


EB 3- PD 2001 - Wait till 2015
EB 3- PD 2002 - Wait till 2019
EB 3- PD 2003 - Wait till 2024
EB 3- PD 2004 - Wait till 2028
EB 3- PD 2005 - Wait till 2032
EB 3- PD 2006 - Wait till 2036
EB 3- PD 2007 - Wait till 2040
EB 3- PD 2008 - Wait till 2044....not sure how many will be alive to receive their GC...anway it is worth a wait....

I have a 12 yr old ...and mine is EB3 - 2007 ...I think my son who will be 43 by 2040 will get me perm residency.....
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:26 PM
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I thought the spillover starts at July, but it doesnt look that way. When would they do the spillovers? in next two months??? i thought we are done for 2009 quota...

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That "small change" of EB2 China PD is very important. It suggests that there is going to be "Spill over" so EB2 India and China will have to move together to use the unused numbers. A good sign; at least EB1 retrogression does not seem to be likely and there will be some spill over numbers to EB2 India (EB2 china may not benefit much as it had a PD later than that for the rest of the year.

Scorpion: how can you say "no spill over". EB2ROW is current and so spill over is likely (more likely from EB1 and even to some extent from EB2 ROW)
Moreover, EB2 ROW remained current meaning that they have not used all their quota; they will not use any spillover numbers and they may even provide spill over numbers to EB2 India and China.

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Old 06-08-2009, 07:26 PM
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My labour cleared in 2009, i guess i need to wait for 10 yrs more !!!, not good , not good at all
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:32 PM
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Wink Not a Joke

Do not abuse me...for this post.

2 of my friends have moved back to India after looking at EB2 date of JAN00....I think they took the wise decision....

Else let us work here thinking that we are in Saudi Arabia, work till the age of 58-65 and then move back to India letting our kids settled here.
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:33 PM
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My labour cleared in 2009, i guess i need to wait for 10 yrs more !!!, not good , not good at all

You might get your GC while you are at the retirement home....
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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You might get your GC while you are at the retirement home....
Do not get me wrong ....140 crore Rupees [EAD & AP Renewal] just for pending 485 is not an small amount.....

they will be another July 2007 fiasco in 2010.....so that another 200K people board the non stop flight for GC destination......so that 140 Crore becomes 280 Crore Rupees....those 2000 hired by USCIS in 2007 will be waiting for salary hike ....
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Old 06-08-2009, 07:38 PM
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There is going to be no spillover to EB2 India at all because according to the thread "Employment-Based Visa Number Movement and Predictions - from current Murthy Bulletin" thread Mr. Oppenheim (the guy from the DOS who sets the visa bulletin) said that EB1, EB4 and Eb5 might also retrogress (that is have to a cut off date which means they will not be current). If EB1, EB2 and EB5 retrogress and there is no spillover from EB2 ROW and there is no spillover from Family based visas there will not be any spillover to Eb2 India at all. There is absoluetely no difference between Eb3 India and Eb2 India except that EB3 India will be stuck in 2001 and Eb2 India might be stuck either in 2002 or early 2003. We are screwed for ages to come. Dont give me red for bringing this harsh reality, I myself am depressed

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That "small change" of EB2 China PD is very important. It suggests that there is going to be "Spill over" so EB2 India and China will have to move together to use the unused numbers. A good sign; at least EB1 retrogression does not seem to be likely and there will be some spill over numbers to EB2 India (EB2 china may not benefit much as it had a PD later than that for the rest of the year.

Scorpion: how can you say "no spill over". EB2ROW is current and so spill over is likely (more likely from EB1 and even to some extent from EB2 ROW)
Moreover, EB2 ROW remained current meaning that they have not used all their quota; they will not use any spillover numbers and they may even provide spill over numbers to EB2 India and China.
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