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Dates will not be current for anyone anytime soon. Here are my reasons.

People waiting for green cards are selfish and lazy. Many are corrupt. One can only fight against injustice if they have some moral strength. It is missing in many after they used Labor substitution, started desi consulting disease in the country, faked resumes, ported through desi companies, EB1C fraud etc. There is also not sufficient frustration yet that will require congress to act. People do not want to participate in rallies or contribute. IV gave us the place to do this work but we misused it.

I guess there are already too many Indians in US. Every middle class family in India has a relative in USA. There is good case for not passing any immigration bill and any more visas to Indians to maintain diversity and protect American High-Tech jobs. Anti-immigration forces are very strong in the country at this time. It is part of being patriotic. Just think how we react when so many Bangladeshis and Nepalis come to our country. The situation in USA is worse than this because high tech labor comes and takes away creamy jobs and low skill labor illegally immigrates and causes crime, poverty, stress on US exchequer etc.

The other reason is Indian government has already botched up a good relations with USA by taking the side of Devyani Khobragade. It just shows the feudal mentality and protection of upper class to the world. It is all because she is a SC/ST and by raising voice against fair US law enforcement Indian politicians will get SC/ST and Muslim votes in the next election. The politicians did not speak in favor of the poor maid servant who has mistreated by the feudal masters. It has brought a bad impression of India to the whole world. It has adversely affected every Indian settled in USA trying to lobby in USA for the interest of many Indians in USA.

Overall its all fcued up for everyone. Enjoy the bulletin everyone.
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Dates will not be current for anyone anytime soon. Here are my reasons.

People waiting for green cards are selfish and lazy. Many are corrupt. One can only fight against injustice if they have some moral strength. It is missing in many after they used Labor substitution, started desi consulting disease in the country, faked resumes, ported through desi companies, EB1C fraud etc. There is also not sufficient frustration yet that will require congress to act. People do not want to participate in rallies or contribute. IV gave us the place to do this work but we misused it.

I guess there are already too many Indians in US. Every middle class family in India has a relative in USA. There is good case for not passing any immigration bill and any more visas to Indians to maintain diversity and protect American High-Tech jobs. Anti-immigration forces are very strong in the country at this time. It is part of being patriotic. Just think how we react when so many Bangladeshis and Nepalis come to our country. The situation in USA is worse than this because high tech labor comes and takes away creamy jobs and low skill labor illegally immigrates and causes crime, poverty, stress on US exchequer etc.

The other reason is Indian government has already botched up a good relations with USA by taking the side of Devyani Khobragade. It just shows the feudal mentality and protection of upper class to the world. It is all because she is a SC/ST and by raising voice against fair US law enforcement Indian politicians will get SC/ST and Muslim votes in the next election. The politicians did not speak in favor of the poor maid servant who has mistreated by the feudal masters. It has brought a bad impression of India to the whole world. It has adversely affected every Indian settled in USA trying to lobby in USA for the interest of many Indians in USA.

Overall its all fcued up for everyone. Enjoy the bulletin everyone.
Useless rant... you know nothing! Don't paint a picture as if you have figured out everything. Indians are still a big minority and well respected community in USA.
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Useless rant... you know nothing! Don't paint a picture as if you have figured out everything. Indians are still a big minority and well respected community in USA.
You must be joking right!
I agree that India is a big minority. But 'well respected' ? Outside of the doctors and professor community Indians have little respect. Join some non profit organization of Americans and volunteer for a good cause. You will not find a single Indian there. All these H4s who whine will also not be there to do something good for the country they live. This is just one instance. There are many if you care to debate.
Do not watch media of India where they paint the picture of India being the center of the world and best country in the world. Companies like Infy TCS etc are projected at top tech innovators and Indians being best and the brightest. What kind of innovation has come out of India in the last 20 years? It is some handful of bright people who come here and work for good companies innovate. These people are EB1 people and there is no wait for the green card. All of us others are just average people trying to earn a good living better than what we had in India. This is why we want greencard. Indians need to get out of their sick and corrupt mentality first before becoming permanent residents of the country otherwise they will create a mini India here. NJ is already become in some pockets and you see it infested by desi consulting business bringing cheap labor.

The reality is very different once you live in the country for more than a decade and have less interactions with desis and more with Americans. Watch US media, analysis, politics and you will know where India stands. The only mention of India happens in international news is when some accident or bad incident takes place !
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I think imh1 raises some valid points. Just to give a totally different perspective, one of our close friend's kid is trying to make it big in media. This kid has already performed in several national media gatherings and even had a debut with some top names in Hollywood. However, in order to audition for roles in TV programs, it seems there are lobbyists from even other South Asian countries as they want representation from their countries in mainstream media. However, there is no lobbying or even efforts to promote Indian talent to the mainstream. This is just an example...

Unfortunately, in my opinion, Indians lack unity, in collaborating and putting forth a combined strength to raise voice for a much larger cause than our day-to-day survival/success.

Accusing the people waiting for GC as selfish and lazy is not appropriate, though. If the country has a billion people, it is but, natural that people have to move out to greener pastures, looking for opportunities. However, it is unfortunate that no one has paid serious attention to the severe backlog only for people from India. Indian Govt. is justified in not being interested, but why not the Jindals/Nooyis and many others that could at least have some one look at it..

How on earth could some one explain how both EB2 and EB3 China has moved so rapidly than India? I'm not saying that the process is biased here, but question the validity of EB3 backlog for Indians itself.
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We selectively use what has been passed by our father of nation. Very non-cooperative, civil disobedient and above all very lazy. This is the precise reason even with totally different cultures we still are a union of convenience.

However in case of Devayani, I believe diplomatic immunity would prevail over a labor violation issue. I would think D.A went overboard on this.

A similar issue with a Saudi Royal family member was sorted out without any fan fare.
But this being election year in India and weak leaders sees an opportunity of bravado, they are playing to the gallery.

It will end as a storm in a cup. Much ado over nothing.
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dates will not be current for anyone anytime soon. Here are my reasons.

People waiting for green cards are selfish and lazy. Many are corrupt. One can only fight against injustice if they have some moral strength. It is missing in many after they used labor substitution, started desi consulting disease in the country, faked resumes, ported through desi companies, eb1c fraud etc. There is also not sufficient frustration yet that will require congress to act. People do not want to participate in rallies or contribute. Iv gave us the place to do this work but we misused it.

I guess there are already too many indians in us. Every middle class family in india has a relative in usa. There is good case for not passing any immigration bill and any more visas to indians to maintain diversity and protect american high-tech jobs. Anti-immigration forces are very strong in the country at this time. It is part of being patriotic. Just think how we react when so many bangladeshis and nepalis come to our country. The situation in usa is worse than this because high tech labor comes and takes away creamy jobs and low skill labor illegally immigrates and causes crime, poverty, stress on us exchequer etc.

The other reason is indian government has already botched up a good relations with usa by taking the side of devyani khobragade. It just shows the feudal mentality and protection of upper class to the world. It is all because she is a sc/st and by raising voice against fair us law enforcement indian politicians will get sc/st and muslim votes in the next election. The politicians did not speak in favor of the poor maid servant who has mistreated by the feudal masters. It has brought a bad impression of india to the whole world. It has adversely affected every indian settled in usa trying to lobby in usa for the interest of many indians in usa.

Overall its all fcued up for everyone. Enjoy the bulletin everyone.
very well said
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You must be joking right!
I agree that India is a big minority. But 'well respected' ? Outside of the doctors and professor community Indians have little respect. Join some non profit organization of Americans and volunteer for a good cause. You will not find a single Indian there. All these H4s who whine will also not be there to do something good for the country they live. This is just one instance. There are many if you care to debate.
Do not watch media of India where they paint the picture of India being the center of the world and best country in the world. Companies like Infy TCS etc are projected at top tech innovators and Indians being best and the brightest. What kind of innovation has come out of India in the last 20 years? It is some handful of bright people who come here and work for good companies innovate. These people are EB1 people and there is no wait for the green card. All of us others are just average people trying to earn a good living better than what we had in India. This is why we want greencard. Indians need to get out of their sick and corrupt mentality first before becoming permanent residents of the country otherwise they will create a mini India here. NJ is already become in some pockets and you see it infested by desi consulting business bringing cheap labor.

The reality is very different once you live in the country for more than a decade and have less interactions with desis and more with Americans. Watch US media, analysis, politics and you will know where India stands. The only mention of India happens in international news is when some accident or bad incident takes place !
VERY WELL SAID AGAIN. people who are getting angry on you- should go back to India and reform India. We, Indians don't like to introspect because we are perfect nation


WE BELIEVE.......... ------------------- 1. We are an 8,000 year old ancient and superior civilization 2. Our culture and family values are superior to Western culture 3. We know how to 'take care' of our women 4. India will be a superpower 5. Mera Bharat Mahan 6. India is Shining 7. Indira is India 8. Nehru was a visionary leader 9. Sanjay Gandhi wanted to transform India 10. Rajiv Gandhi was Mr. Clean (except for Bofors) 11. Rahul Gandhi is smart REALITY IS A NIGHTMARE..... ---------------------- 1. India - holds more poor than all the poor in the entire African continent 2. India - is 4th worst country for women to live in after Afghanistan, Somalia and Pakistan 3. India - gender equality is worse than Pakistan's 4. India - 49% Indians still do not have simple toilets in this day and age 5. India - the most slavery - more than any nation in the world 6. India - Per Capita GDP - lowest 138 out of 183 countries. The bottom countries include Somalia, Afghanistan... 7. India - is the worst place for mothers according to Save the Children's "State of World's Mothers" report 8. India - among these worst countries where children never go to school ever. Mali, Niger, Senegal, Nigeria, Guinea, Tajikistan, Timor-Leste ---- INDIA. Yemen, Ethiopia and Pakistan do better than India. 9. India - The worst country in suicide rates in G20 countries 10. India - ranked very low in environmental performance - ranked 125 out of 132 countries (bottom countries include Congo, Somalia etc.) 11. India - has the worst air pollution in the entire world, beating China, Pakistan, Nepal and Bangladesh, according to a study released during World Economic Forum in Davos 12. India - does not have a single university in top "200" worldwide, let alone in top 50
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In fact these desi consultant professionals should BEG for amnesty when the illegals are given amnesty


GO back to India.
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You must be joking right!
I agree that India is a big minority. But 'well respected' ? Outside of the doctors and professor community Indians have little respect. Join some non profit organization of Americans and volunteer for a good cause. You will not find a single Indian there. All these H4s who whine will also not be there to do something good for the country they live. This is just one instance. There are many if you care to debate.
Do not watch media of India where they paint the picture of India being the center of the world and best country in the world. Companies like Infy TCS etc are projected at top tech innovators and Indians being best and the brightest. What kind of innovation has come out of India in the last 20 years? It is some handful of bright people who come here and work for good companies innovate. These people are EB1 people and there is no wait for the green card. All of us others are just average people trying to earn a good living better than what we had in India. This is why we want greencard. Indians need to get out of their sick and corrupt mentality first before becoming permanent residents of the country otherwise they will create a mini India here. NJ is already become in some pockets and you see it infested by desi consulting business bringing cheap labor.

The reality is very different once you live in the country for more than a decade and have less interactions with desis and more with Americans. Watch US media, analysis, politics and you will know where India stands. The only mention of India happens in international news is when some accident or bad incident takes place !
I got to agree with you at least on the respect part. Indians have very very little to no respect. A lot of people in our community has a wrong impression that they are respected in the US or any other first world country. That truth is different.
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Desis have incredible self-centric attitude. Itís a part of our culture. Until you take that element out from Desi mentality, you canít change anything for them.
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WE INDIANS are good at doing corruption, favoritism, nepotism, lying, back door deals, nation looting, tax avoiding, hawala, black money, corrupt leaders installing stupid children in power, favors to rich and well connected, back door to rich and well-connected but languishing in jails for the poor and helpless. That is what who we are. WHAT A SHAME! 330 millions Gods, thousands of temples, millions of cheating swamis, babas, gurus, 8,000 years old civilization, ancient scriptures .... but we cannot do a simple thing. ........ BE A GOOD HUMAN BEING WHO IS HONEST AND ETHICAL. We are a faulty people. We tolerate all vices, we worship people, we put garlands around corrupt politicians, we have no shame in kissing up to people and do chumachagiri with Yes Sir, Please Sir, and Sorry Sir all day, we accept incompetent children of corrupt politicians years after year, we allow them to name pieces of India after the family members every year, we call actors and actresses heroes and heroines. Often Gujarati Patels marry their own sisters on paper to get the American visa, we love political dynasties. The government harasses us every day with corrupt police, bribes at municipality, RTO, passport office, licenses, RBI, We are fearful of the government, the traffic police, the police, income tax, CBI and everything else. NOTHING BOILS OUR BLOOD.

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