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Retrogression, priority dates and Visa bulletins Issues surrounding the retrogression of the priority dates for the various employment based categories

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Old 02-08-2007, 10:44 AM
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Does anyone know when March bulletin comes out...
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:48 AM
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Does anyone know when March bulletin comes out...
anyway you can check this link..
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bu...etin_1360.html
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It typically comes after 12 of every month.
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just a word of caution, after seeing these bulletin's for a while now.

"dont get your hopes high. it will be just a waste of your time"
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I do not need to see for VB.
I need to look intoonly IV.
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Old 02-08-2007, 11:01 AM
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It typically comes after 12 of every month.
It comes 12th of every month but it is always good to see after 12 months(1year)...
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Old 02-08-2007, 12:15 PM
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You wont be watching the visa bulletin after 12 years as by then you have got you GC or you are back in your home country since your patience would run off by then.

Whatever be the case, its better to forget keeping a track of when the Visa "sad News" Bulletin is going to come and predict.

Good Luck!
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:11 PM
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Dude....

You want to see the March VB ?
Why waste time? Just look at Feb VB..it will be the ditto copy n paste.

The lazy html programmer might have already cut it by now. He will take 3 days to paste it into a new page. After all that 'hard work', he will bring out a broken link on the 4th day.

Really getting tired of this monthly ritual!
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:17 PM
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Dude....

You want to see the March VB ?
Why waste time? Just look at Feb VB..it will be the ditto copy n paste.

The lazy html programmer might have already cut it by now. He will take 3 days to paste it into a new page. After all that 'hard work', he will bring out a broken link on the 4th day.

Really getting tired of this monthly ritual!

The fun lies in the anticipacation for a forward movement! Its like the first thing you want to make sure to atrt your month!
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Old 02-08-2007, 04:40 PM
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VB (hopefully) will be out next friday. I suggest nobody waste time posting after you get frustrated seeing the VB.
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After following release dates since the past year ...I predict it will be out either tomm (9th) or Monday (12th)
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Check this out. No need to look at the bulletin for the next 6 months.
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Old 02-08-2007, 06:54 PM
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Read this...United Nations had posted this in some other forum.

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Here is the easiest reading. It is from November 2005 bulletin. They specifically stated that the 7% limit was going to apply.

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/b...letin_2712.html

D. EMPLOYMENT PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY

The backlog reduction efforts of both Citizenship and Immigration Services and the Department of Labor continue to result in very heavy demand for Employment-based numbers. The amount of cases currently being processed is sufficient to use all available numbers in many categories. The level of demand in the Employment categories is expected to be far in excess of the annual limits, and once established, cut-off date movements are likely to be slow.

WHAT CAUSES THE ESTABLISHMENT OF CUT-OFF DATES?

The Visa Office subdivides the annual preference and foreign state limitations specified in the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) into twelve monthly allotments. The totals of documentarily qualified applicants that have been reported to VO are compared each month with the numbers available for the next regular allotment and numbers are allocated to reported applicants in order of their priority dates, the oldest dates first.

If there are sufficient numbers in a particular category to satisfy all reported documentarily qualified demand, the category is considered “Current.” For example, if the Employment Third preference monthly target is 5,000 and there are only 3,000 applicants, the category is considered “Current”.
Whenever the total of documentarily qualified applicants in a category exceeds the supply of numbers available for allotment for the particular month, the category is considered to be “oversubscribed” and a visa availability cut-off date is established. The cut-off date is the priority date of the first documentarily qualified applicant who could not be accommodated for a visa number. For example, if the Employment Third preference monthly target is 5,000 and there are 15,000 applicants, a cut-off date would be established so that only 5,000 numbers would be used, and the cut-off date would be the priority date of the 5,001st applicant.
WILL THERE BE CUT-OFF DATES FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FOREIGN STATES IN THE FIRST AND SECOND PREFERENCE CATEGORIES?

It may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for the “All Chargeability Areas” Second preference category at some point during the second half of the fiscal year. It is too early to estimate whether future demand will warrant such action. As of October 1st, cut-off dates for the First and Second preferences for China and India were established due to heavy demand; cut-off date movement is expected to be limited until a demand pattern has been determined.

WHY ARE THERE CUT-OFF DATES THIS YEAR AS OPPOSED TO PREVIOUS YEARS, WHEN THE CATEGORIES WERE CURRENT?

While the Employment categories had been “Current” for almost four years, several important factors affected the decision to implement cut-offs for FY-2006.

Prior to July 2001, demand for Employment numbers was such that cut-off dates were in effect for many categories, and that is the case once again for FY-2006.
The reasons the Employment categories had become current were:

The American Competitiveness in the Twenty-First Century Act (AC21) recaptured a “pool” of 131,000 Employment numbers unused in fiscal years 1999 and 2000, and allowed those recaptured numbers to be used by the oversubscribed countries, and
The substantial decline in demand for numbers for adjustment of status cases prevented the annual limits from being reached for several years.
In FY-2006, we are faced with continuing heavy demand due to the DHS and DOL backlog reduction efforts, along with an Employment limit which is approximately 40% lower than that of FY-2005. The lower annual Employment limit is a result of the virtual elimination of the “pool” of recaptured AC21 numbers, returning us to the pre-July 2001 situation.

WHAT ABOUT SCHEDULE A NUMBERS?

The 50,000 Schedule A numbers will provide relief to many Employment preference applicants, since any Schedule A applicant whose priority date is beyond the relevant Employment preference cut-off date can be processed and charged against the 50,000 limit. It is expected that Schedule A numbers will be available on a “Current” basis throughout all of FY-2006.

HOW IS THE EMPLOYMENT-BASED PER-COUNTRY LIMIT CALCULATED?

Section 201 of the INA sets an annual minimum Family-sponsored preference limit of 226,000, while the worldwide annual level for Employment-based preference immigrants is at least 140,000. Section 202 sets the per-country limit for preference immigrants at 7% of the total annual Family-sponsored and Employment-based preference limits, i.e. a minimum of 25,620.

The annual per-country limitation of 7% is a cap, meaning visa issuances to any single country may not exceed this figure. This limitation is not a quota to which any particular country is entitled, however. The per-country limitation serves to avoid monopolization of virtually all the visa numbers by applicants from only a few countries.
The AC21 removed the per-country limit in any calendar quarter in which overall applicant demand for Employment-based visa numbers is less than the total of such numbers available.
In recent years, the application of the rules outlined in AC21 has allowed countries such as China – mainland born, India, and the Philippines to utilize large amounts of employment numbers which would have otherwise gone unused.
During FY-2006, due to anticipated heavy demand, the AC21 provisions are not expected to apply, and the amount of Employment numbers available to any single country will be subject to the 7% cap. It is anticipated that the addition of unused FY-2005 Family numbers and the remaining AC21 numbers to the 140,000 annual minimum will result in an FY-2006 annual Employment limit of 152,000. This will mean an Employment per-country limit for FY-2006 of approximately 10,650.
To illustrate the effect of the reduced per-county limitation during FY-2006 on the oversubscribed countries, it should be noted that during FY-2005 India used approximately 47,175 Employment numbers.
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Check this out. No need to look at the bulletin for the next 6 months.
should we believe someone who justs says he/she has insider information? Who is this guy berkeleybee anyway?

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Why do you guys have such a hard time believing....

Law says what it says
Visa bulletin has the notce
Berkleybee isn't saying anything in that conversation with DOS which isn't already covered by the law or the note in 2005 visa bulletin.

Still; everyone is thinking it is a mistake and it is going to get current in 3 to 4months?

The cynic in me believes that everyone thinks it is just a matter of time before it becomes current or there is significant movements in dates. This is dead wrong. All one needs to do is look at data coming out from backlog processing centers; amount of 245i labors; statistics on how many people have come on h-1b; l-1's, b visas, f visas, amont of perm labor approvals; amount of greencards approved over the last five years.

It is going to be a very, very long time before there is significant movement in dates.

The cynic in me thinks Berkleybee posted it in immigration.com so that people may now get the message the dates aren't going to move. They aren't going to move significantly next year either. There is TOO many people going for greencards.

As long as people think that the dates are going to move, then they sit on the fence and don't do much to get rid of retrogression.

I am sure if people could get convinced that in current environment; visa dates will never get current then people may have some urgency in participating to get rid of retrogression.
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