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Old 07-20-2007, 12:23 PM
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I need more people to stand up and commit to video campaign also. Come on guys, if this had any risk involved, I would not tell you to do this. I have myself put videos in past (for a different purpose). I am on my H1 too. If there was risk involved, I wouldnt do that. I am not crazy and I love my status and my prospects for GC too.

If USCIS had been going after people just for speaking out in media, then the entire core group's 140s and 485s would have been rejected. USCIS does not have time, interest or legal grounds to care about who does what. Their job is to follow procedure listed in Adjudicator's field manual and work as per federal laws and regulations. Denials of 140s and 485s or labor cert need to fall under one or other category of federal regulation. They also need to be cited on denial notice. You cant just deny someone's 140 because you dont LIKE the extra carricular activities of person. You are dealing with a Democracy here. Not the 15th century Mughal emperor where the jahan-panah (the emperor) can put someone on trial, convict and sentence upon whim without any due process and where the roles of judge, prosecutor and jury are all fused together into one person. There is a reason why there is an independent judiciary in any reasonable democracy.

If this were something illegal, yes you would be in trouble. If its legal, you are not in trouble no matter what.

If you do something illegal, then no matter how secretly you do it, it will affect your GC or citizenship. Even after you get GC or citizenship, if you do ILLEGAL STUFF, then yes, those privileges can be revoked. If everything you do is LEGAL, then NO, NOTHING will happen to you.

Kindly draw the lines of what you choose to do and choose not to do along the lines of LAW, and not along the lines of "What might or might not offend someone".

If you are constantly afraid of offending someone, then the sad news is that you wont be able to accomplish much of anything in life, EVEN AFTER getting GC and citizenship.

There is no such thing as secret protest.

If the only protest is the only inside your head, then I dont think Congress is going to get the message. That's because Congress does not read minds. It can hardly keep up with letters and webfaxes so I doubt that the grievances inside your head that you intend to keep private will do you any good. You need to speak up publicly.

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Thanks for organizing this. Will mail cards out this weekend.
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Question Is my case worth posting?

Is a video of my case worth posting in YouTube?
I believe my situation is not very common - I got my LC and I-140 approved in March and May this year respectively. Very excited to hear I could file my I-485 in July. Dissapointed with the July 2 Update. Then excited again on July 17. Since I have not been waiting for too long to apply for my GC, is my case worth posting in youtube? I am aware I will most likely have to wait for months or years before I actually get my GC, though.
By the way, I have been on an H1B status since 2001 - already extended for an additional 3 years in May as my visa category was backlogged then.

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Do you know what thread you posted. Does this have anything to do with the action alert?

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I believe my situation is not very common - I got my LC and I-140 approved in March and May this year respectively. Very excited to hear I could file my I-485 in July. Dissapointed with the July 2 Update. Then excited again on July 17. Since I have not been waiting for too long to apply for my GC, is my case worth posting in youtube? I am aware I will most likely have to wait for months or years before I actually get my GC, though.
By the way, I have been on an H1B status since 2001 - already extended for an additional 3 years in May as my visa category was backlogged then.
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I need more people to stand up and commit to video campaign also. Come on guys, if this had any risk involved, I would not tell you to do this. I have myself put videos in past (for a different purpose). I am on my H1 too. If there was risk involved, I wouldnt do that. I am not crazy and I love my status and my prospects for GC too.

If USCIS had been going after people just for speaking out in media, then the entire core group's 140s and 485s would have been rejected. USCIS does not have time, interest or legal grounds to care about who does what. Their job is to follow procedure listed in Adjudicator's field manual and work as per federal laws and regulations. Denials of 140s and 485s or labor cert need to fall under one or other category of federal regulation. They also need to be cited on denial notice. You cant just deny someone's 140 because you dont LIKE the extra carricular activities of person. You are dealing with a Democracy here. Not the 15th century Mughal emperor where the jahan-panah (the emperor) can put someone on trial, convict and sentence upon whim without any due process and where the roles of judge, prosecutor and jury are all fused together into one person. There is a reason why there is an independent judiciary in any reasonable democracy.

If this were something illegal, yes you would be in trouble. If its legal, you are not in trouble no matter what.

If you do something illegal, then no matter how secretly you do it, it will affect your GC or citizenship. Even after you get GC or citizenship, if you do ILLEGAL STUFF, then yes, those privileges can be revoked. If everything you do is LEGAL, then NO, NOTHING will happen to you.

Kindly draw the lines of what you choose to do and choose not to do along the lines of LAW, and not along the lines of "What might or might not offend someone".

If you are constantly afraid of offending someone, then the sad news is that you wont be able to accomplish much of anything in life, EVEN AFTER getting GC and citizenship.

There is no such thing as secret protest.

If the only protest is the only inside your head, then I dont think Congress is going to get the message. That's because Congress does not read minds. It can hardly keep up with letters and webfaxes so I doubt that the grievances inside your head that you intend to keep private will do you any good. You need to speak up publicly.
Lot of people have some kind of inhibitions, I have noticed. They have to get over it.

My message to the community - if you don't over come your fear or inhibition, even God cannot save you. If you don't stand up for yourself, no one will do it for you

When Logiclife was announcing breaking news, there were thousands of people jamming the threads and talking crap, but when people can file for 485, no one is interested in doing follow up action items. Look at how slow this thread is.
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Do you know what thread you posted. Does this have anything to do with the action alert?
Please read my message... carefully this time
What I meant was, is a video of my case worth posting in YouTube (Action 2) since I have not been waiting too long?
Hopefully this will clarify it

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Hi Guys,

Here is an example of how persuasive such an argument can be. I am just linking this to show the point and encourage members to do this. It is a 3 minute clip on NPR from last year. You can't help but feel persuaded on this one.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=5376038

Atleast try making the video. You can then send a clip to core and check if it is worthy of posting.
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Thanks for your reply. I will give it a try.
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I pledge to send the card this weekend....will try to create the video too...

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Great ideas Logiclife, will work on these.

An idea for the next action item would be to get affidavits from clients, co workers, managers, employers about us, about the role we play in their business etc.. lets think about this also
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I pledge to do the cards and video over the weekend.

Thanks,
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