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Someone is saying that it is possible to recapture unused green cards with the Executive Order of the President. I wrote emails to IV core asking about this. It will help lot of members if IV core will let us know if this is possible and what we can do.
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I think H.R. 5882 was for that - which apparently died in 2008!
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If it was possible, it could have been done by now by IV.


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Someone is saying that it is possible to recapture unused green cards with the Executive Order of the President. I wrote emails to IV core asking about this. It will help lot of members if IV core will let us know if this is possible and what we can do.
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Thanks for brining this activity to our attention. Visa recapture cannot happen with an executive order. Please do not waste your energy in writing to USCIS, Mayorkas or the President asking for an executive order to recapture unused green cards. Why ask for something that they cannot do? Only Congress has the power to pass a law for visa recapture. That is the reason time and again we have requested IV members to petition the Congress to fix the backlogs.

Sending out random messages could give us an impression that we are helping to fix our issues. To the contrary, the fact is that sending out uncoordinated random messages like this could negatively affect our fixes. We request everyone to please actively participate in the published Action Items, engage in meeting with the lawmakers and not get carried away if some anonymous person is asking to send out random messages, which is often counter productive.

Again, USCIS, Mayorkas or the President does not have the authority to recapture unused green cards. We understand the share the frustration due to the backlogs. And often times some folks have taken advantage of our frustration in making the larger community send out messages which is not at all helpful. These random messages suck up oxygen in the room which could be utilized in a real coordinated effort. We request that at anytime someone is asking to send out random messages, please ask them to share their true identity and refer them to IV Core team
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Read this article in The Examiner....



http://www.examiner.com/x-35821-Immi...xecutive-order
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This is a Numbersusa publicity work. Check out Numbersusa homepage and you will see the same. Fact of the matter is that recapture is not happening by Exec. order if you are hoping for it and thinking of sending spam mail to the officials. Do not waste your time on it.
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Wow this rumor has wings and Even law makers are trying to get clarification...

On Monday, Sens. Grassley, Hatch (R-Utah), Vitter (R-La.), Bunning (R-Ky.), Chambliss (R-Ga.), Isakson (R-Ga.), Inhofe (R-Okla.), and Cochran (R-Miss.) sent a letter to the White House, demanding answers to this outrage.

The letter reads as follows:

ďDear President Obama: ..........
its not called "wings"... its called political positioning.... after kyl lied to his constituents in arizona, republican senators who hate Obama are now creating news by themselves.

who will you trust.... Vitter or Obama? make a pick.... the guy who lied after sleeping with hookers or the president with untarnished credibility..... this is such a difficult choice..... i mean give me a break.... "amnesty by executive order" WOW .... as if republicans have fired everything they had.... so now they r into inventing new ammunition......

if amnesty was possible with executive order...... bush would have done it long time back....

the problem is not that these redneck guys are making a fool of everyone..... the real problem is that they know people will buy this nonsense over & over again ......
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the problem is not that these redneck guys are making a fool of everyone..... the real problem is that they know people will buy this nonsense over & over again ......
I am constantly amazed that these folks find followers who are ready to cut their noses to spite their faces.

It's like a cult :-(

The most funniest and saddest thing I saw were folks on Medicare and unemployment fighting against the so called government takeover of the health care system.

Between the Republicans (Do nothing) and Democrats (We are scared to lose the election), we are the ones that are getting screwed. :-(

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I am constantly amazed that these folks find followers who are ready to cut their noses to spite their faces.

It's like a cult :-(

The most funniest and saddest thing I saw were folks on Medicare and unemployment fighting against the so called government takeover of the health care system.

Between the Republicans (Do nothing) and Democrats (We are scared to lose the election), we are the ones that are getting screwed. :-(

- JZ
totally agree with you..... these guys have such a shallow message & objective.... and they repeat it over and over again in the forth but most powerful branch of government - media.... when democracy was first born, in the earlier years there was this fear that people will not be aware of how or whom to vote for.... & the concept of media was created that media will keep everyone informed creating awareness about how to vote on issues and governments....

it has all come down to the do nothing republicans v/s scared to lose democrats who continue to go down in the media positioning to screw up lives of everyone .... & in this back and forth, the dumbest guy always wins the election to screw it up what is left of it....

i mean just look at this.... can it get any more dumb than "amnesty by executive order"....
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totally agree with you..... these guys have such a shallow message & objective.... and they repeat it over and over again in the forth but most powerful branch of government - media.... when democracy was first born, in the earlier years there was this fear that people will not be aware of how or whom to vote for.... & the concept of media was created that media will keep everyone informed creating awareness about how to vote on issues and governments....

it has all come down to the do nothing republicans v/s scared to lose democrats who continue to go down in the media positioning to screw up lives of everyone .... & in this back and forth, the dumbest guy always wins the election to screw it up what is left of it....

i mean just look at this.... can it get any more dumb than "amnesty by executive order"....
What else would you expect from a guy who thinks immigration increases global warming.. Really how about chances hit by an asteroid?? Can you relate that also to immigration in USA???
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What would be really beneficial, if they split the amnesty part out of the CIR. Most politicians agree that the legal immigration system is dysfunctional and needs to be fixed. The all or nothing approach is the brainchild of Dem's - in fact Rep's asked for an updated bill that starts with the common framework of agreements, like border security, legal immigration reform etc.

Making the legal immigration reform contingent on amnesty doesnít seem to make any rational, even in political perspective. I canít see how it will help Demí win elections, even if thatís their goal. Getting things gradually moving would rather make them look dynamic and solving some problems!
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What would be really beneficial, if they split the amnesty part out of the CIR. Most politicians agree that the legal immigration system is dysfunctional and needs to be fixed. The all or nothing approach is the brainchild of Dem's - in fact Rep's asked for an updated bill that starts with the common framework of agreements, like border security, legal immigration reform etc.

Making the legal immigration reform contingent on amnesty doesnít seem to make any rational, even in political perspective. I canít see how it will help Demí win elections, even if thatís their goal. Getting things gradually moving would rather make them look dynamic and solving some problems!
You are mistaken if you believe that the dems support amnesty and the reps support legal immigration. The fact is that they support themselves and will take on a policy that will get them re-elected.
We do not matter until we make ourselves matter by holding them responsible....... hard to do without citizenship
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Since we do not have citizenship, we can make ourselves matter to citizens. When we realize that average American citizens are the people whom we need to team up with, politicians will start listening to us. So far we have been teaming up with illegals.

It is often said (and it is very correct) that divided we fall. So we have to stand as a team to success. The question really is, whom would we team up with?

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You are mistaken if you believe that the dems support amnesty and the reps support legal immigration. The fact is that they support themselves and will take on a policy that will get them re-elected.
We do not matter until we make ourselves matter by holding them responsible....... hard to do without citizenship
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You are mistaken if you believe that the dems support amnesty and the reps support legal immigration. The fact is that they support themselves and will take on a policy that will get them re-elected.
We do not matter until we make ourselves matter by holding them responsible....... hard to do without citizenship
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