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Old 09-09-2010, 02:36 PM
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Default What are the hopes for EB3-I?

I get this question every day, what are the hopes for EB3-I, or rather are there any hopes for EB3-I? Are we fighting a lost battle?

What do people here really think?

1. There are X % chance that there would be some immigration bill that would help us and we will have GC in next couple of years?

2. Keep going on with life as is, till the time we can renew EAD every 2 years, and AP every year.

3. Wait for another X years, and then go back.

4. Hopefully my son/daughter will be 21 by 2020, and will sponsor my GC.
--- Hoping family based GC would still be allowed by then

5. Don't know, confused?
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Number of VISA numbers are same for EB2 I and EB3 I or not???

If in case same....why we not getting any approvals for EB3 compare to EB2?

I can understand why EB3 in 2001 and EB2 in 2006..

but my question is .... why Eb3 is not moving when EB2 is moving?

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Note: I'm not saying anything against EB2 people....I'm just comparing.

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Thanks for this post. I was about to post something similar myself.

Seriously what is EB3 I thinking ?!? Pretty soon it will only be them stuck in this mess.
I know several who have literally substituted their EAD for their GC and settled down comfortably. Absolutely ridiculous !

EB3 seriously needs to wake up.
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What are the hopes for EB3-I?
ZERO


Till we spend our time in predictions and tracking, till the time we stop jumping the gun in calling for lawsuits, till the time we stop interpreting the INA to find a smoking gun, till the time we stop calling names for USCIS and DOS, till the time we stop blaming 245(i), till the time we stop engaging in eb2 v/s eb3 fight, till the time we stop fighting with each other over irrelevant things, till the time we stop creating these stupid polls, till the time we stop engaging in "number crunching" whatever that means, until that time there is ZERO hope for Eb3-I. Once we stop wasting our time on all these irrelevant things, we will then start spending our time on more meaningful things like speaking with the members of Congress. Then, and only then, there will be a chance of anything good happening for EB3-I.
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Unless there is a concrete effort just for EB3-I, Nothing is going to happen. It's just unfortunate that we are just a subset who are affected. In reality everyone else gets a GC in 5-6 years..
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American lawmakers have created a law that needs only top talent. By law it go from top to bottom. So they go from EB1, EB2, EB3 and so on. If we disagree, then get the law changed.

EB3 I is screwed big time and they are ignorant about this .EB3 are responsible for their own loss. I see them tracking LUDs and laugh at their ignorance of wasting their time.

They should be doing hunger strikes and do a rally in DC every month.

Else they can forget Green card coming any time soon.
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did any one did math...

EB1 - all current
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EB2 - World current
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EB2 - India / China
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EB3 All
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EB3 I/C ( When EB1 , EB2 is Current , all visa numbers will flood to EB3 right ? so may be in 4-5 years EB3 may get current ? )
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did any one did math...

EB1 - all current
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EB2 - World current
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EB2 - India / China
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| ( When above EB2 India/China gets current 2-3years? )
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EB3 I/C ( When EB1 , EB2 is Current , all visa numbers will flood to EB3 right ? so may be in 4-5 years EB3 may get current ? )
This is a big fantasy.

EB3 is not going to get current in the next 4-5 years you said.

Backlog posted by USCIS and DOS is a lot more than posted. Their data is not totally right.

The only way EB3 India can be current if all Indians on H1B, EAD are deported by a law. Such law is likely in 4-5 years if outsourcing increase and anti-immigrants blame immigrants for their unemployment. Then EB3 I will get current. But there will be no EB3I to take advantage of it.

I say we stop dreaming and do a rally in DC.
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Number of VISA numbers are same for EB2 I and EB3 I or not???

If in case same....why we not getting any approvals for EB3 compare to EB2?

I can understand why EB3 in 2001 and EB2 in 2006..

but my question is .... why Eb3 is not moving when EB2 is moving?

=====

Note: I'm not saying anything against EB2 people....I'm just comparing.

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Numbers are NOT same for EB2 and EB3.

EB2 gets double or even more from the "unused" from EB1, which a LOT.

So it moves fast.
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This is a big fantasy.

EB3 is not going to get current in the next 4-5 years you said.

Backlog posted by USCIS and DOS is a lot more than posted. Their data is not totally right.

The only way EB3 India can be current if all Indians on H1B, EAD are deported by a law. Such law is likely in 4-5 years if outsourcing increase and anti-immigrants blame immigrants for their unemployment. Then EB3 I will get current. But there will be no EB3I to take advantage of it.

I say we stop dreaming and do a rally in DC.
I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf


EB2 total pending 34325
EB3 total pending 136325


2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
less eb2 " " 34325
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" " 51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
less eb3 - 136325
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42636 ( eb3 pending left over from above )
2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

above math is based on
inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
assuming no new applicants applying.
Hope I am correct!

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I understand what you said, but just to consider the off numbers published by dos

http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Empl...utOffDates.pdf


EB2 total pending 34325
EB3 total pending 136325


2010-2011 quota EB1+EB2 ( 85343 )
less eb2 - 34325
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51018 trickeling down for EB3 Worldwide?
2010-2011 quota EB3 ( 42671 )
less eb3 - 136325
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42636 ( eb3 pending )
2011-2012 quota eb1+eb2+eb3 128013

So, with above math Eb2 will be current by next year, and eb3 will be by end of 2012?

above math is based on
inaccurate numbers given by DOS?
assuming no new applicants applying.
Hope I am correct!
The Formula fails if EB2 becomes current, there will be a flood of applications and 0 will trickle down EB3 ROW or Even quarterly spill could kill EB3 hopes.
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The only hope, on a personal front, is to port to Eb2 or Eb1. It all depends on your company though. However, those who don't have any issues with their employer, and is contributing a lot, then go for porting. Thats the only hope.
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Almost everyone I know these days applies in the EB2 category. If the gates open and EB2 is made current, I think it's in the best interest for EB3 to pack their bags and go home.

Just my 2 cents
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You know it takes serious $$$ to get anything moving.
Please consider $50/month level.
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American lawmakers have created a law that needs only top talent. By law it go from top to bottom. So they go from EB1, EB2, EB3 and so on. If we disagree, then get the law changed.

EB3 I is screwed big time and they are ignorant about this .EB3 are responsible for their own loss. I see them tracking LUDs and laugh at their ignorance of wasting their time.

They should be doing hunger strikes and do a rally in DC every month.

Else they can forget Green card coming any time soon.
Sadly true. Our hope is STEM exemption and Visa recapture and both of them will get little political help till elections. After the elections, the political arena will definitely be different with some Republicans replacing the Democrats in the House and any immigration related bill will result in a much tougher battle.
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