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Old 05-10-2012, 02:14 PM
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From May 2012 VB
It is updated, Employment Second for Worldwide, there is a Potential need for cut-off date to be established. If that happens, no spillover to India / China and Worldwide could consume the spillover from other categories as they take precedence . Only if Worldwide current, then I/C could get spillover and then to the E3....
So if the dates move little, the relief is temporarily and more like a lottery. Only hope is a permanent solution like HR3012, etc...
Should need what June VB has to say in numbers and how the outlook is for 4Q of FY12. But the language in May VB makes the outlook very skeptical on any movement.
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:33 PM
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Why is it that always the "Mumbai" consulate gives out an early peek at such bulletins? Meanwhile the real one plays around with putting it and taking off.
Cuz..... "Aamchi Mumbai" rocks!! .... while the real ones are known for their 'hide and seek' play!
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Old 05-10-2012, 02:48 PM
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From May 2012 VB
It is updated, Employment Second for Worldwide, there is a Potential need for cut-off date to be established. If that happens, no spillover to India / China and Worldwide could consume the spillover from other categories as they take precedence . Only if Worldwide current, then I/C could get spillover and then to the E3....
So if the dates move little, the relief is temporarily and more like a lottery. Only hope is a permanent solution like HR3012, etc...
Should need what June VB has to say in numbers and how the outlook is for 4Q of FY12. But the language in May VB makes the outlook very skeptical on any movement.
I am trying to look at the demand data and pending inventory to understand why would there be a need for a cut-off for EB2 Worldwide? Given that there are 2.8K numbers per country, and only 11189 odd EB2 applications pending for ROW with neither Mexico nor Philippines exceeding 2.8K, why is the USCIS contemplating putting a cut-off for EB2-ROW? Philippines has 1348 pending applications which is more than the quarterly quota of 700.. would that be why?

Also, Teddy, what is your estimate for the dates in the October bulletin for EB2-I and EB3-I?
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Old 05-10-2012, 03:10 PM
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Default updated EB inventory as of May-3-2012

interesting!

USCIS - Previous Pending Employment-Based I-485 Inventory

i guess, this is new.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:16 PM
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I saw from flcdatacenter that there are around 11k certified or certified expired PERMS for 2009... But as per inventory report there are 13.5k 485s for 2009... Should not the number of 485s be less than the number of approved PERMs?
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:53 PM
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I saw from flcdatacenter that there are around 11k certified or certified expired PERMS for 2009... But as per inventory report there are 13.5k 485s for 2009... Should not the number of 485s be less than the number of approved PERMs?
Inventory that you see for 2009 is pending inventory from ..+2006+2007+2008+2009 [cumulative to date]
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Old 05-10-2012, 09:09 PM
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Inventory that you see for 2009 is pending inventory from ..+2006+2007+2008+2009 [cumulative to date]
That's not correct...I am talking about the USCIS inventory report,which is not cumulative it's the total for 2009 which 13k+
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Old 05-10-2012, 10:58 PM
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That's not correct...I am talking about the USCIS inventory report,which is not cumulative it's the total for 2009 which 13k+

Guys,
Please get your basics right. The data in Flcdatacenter is only primary applicants, family is not represented there. Moreover it contains all EB categories. There is detailed analysis I have posted on this thread several months ago.
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According to the inventory there are 4.9K of 485 pending for 2007. So I guess lot of the cases that had their perms stuck have been cleared and have shown up on the inventory that is why they made it "U" for the rest of the year. I feel that with 4.9K in 07 and atleast another 1K from previous years there is no way EB2 PDs will advance to 10/11 even in 2013.
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Old 05-11-2012, 11:42 AM
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Teddy & other gurus,

My situation:
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Priority Date: June 27 2007

Employer A: Approved PERM labor and I-140 (Priority date June 27 2007)
Employer B: Applied for PERM labor on 3/25/2011 and is stuck in RFE.
Employer C: Applied for PERM labor on 5/9/2012
Employer A confirmed that they are not going to revoke I-140.
I am waiting for PERM labor from Employer C to be approved, which might take 2 to 3 months if no RFEs and planning on filing I-140 under premium processing and port my priority date.
Based on June 2012 VISA BULLETIN EB2 INDIA will become unavailable.
Employer A is willing to hire me back but is not willing to provide proof of employment letter needed to apply I-485.
I wanted to apply for I-485 with an Employment letter dated January 2010 by Employer A and the rest of the other supporting documents.
I will join Employer A after I get my EAD or continue with Employer C and apply for AC-21 after 6 months from I-485 Receipt date.

Let me know if this will work.

Thanks
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Visa Bulletin For June 2012

2nd C U U C C
3rd 08JUN06 08AUG05 15SEP02 08JUN06 22MAY06
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If a cut off date for EB1 and EB2-ROW occurs, then it will be really bad for EB2 as there won't be any spill over from EB1 and also EB1 may use up the EB4 and EB5 spill over.

And also the analysis bulletin has provided says movement beyond May 1, 2010 would definitely not occur before Spring 2013 as per current indications.

From the Bulletin:
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Readers should be advised that it is impossible to accurately estimate how long that may take, but current indications are that it would definitely not occur before spring 2013.

Employment First: Based on the current rate of demand, it may be necessary to establish a cut-off date at the end of the fiscal year in an effort to limit number use within the annual numerical limit.

Employment Second: Based on the current rate of demand, it may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for this category for all countries other than China and India. Such action may be required at any time during the next few months.
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Old 05-11-2012, 03:31 PM
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If a cut off date for EB1 and EB2-ROW occurs, then it will be really bad for EB2 as there won't be any spill over from EB1 and also EB1 may use up the EB4 and EB5 spill over.

And also the analysis bulletin has provided says movement beyond May 1, 2010 would definitely not occur before Spring 2013 as per current indications.

From the Bulletin:
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Readers should be advised that it is impossible to accurately estimate how long that may take, but current indications are that it would definitely not occur before spring 2013.

Employment First: Based on the current rate of demand, it may be necessary to establish a cut-off date at the end of the fiscal year in an effort to limit number use within the annual numerical limit.

Employment Second: Based on the current rate of demand, it may be necessary to establish a cut-off date for this category for all countries other than China and India. Such action may be required at any time during the next few months.
That is true. Based on that, only, they are predicting that bringing April 2010 for EB-2 will not be anytime before Spring 2013 - (i.e. April-May 2013). I doubt, even that would be possible, with current rate of porting happening from EB-3 to EB-2 -- Now, EB-2 will be stuck -- No spillover from EB-1, and increased porting from EB-3 to EB-2. With this trend, I don't think, it will come back to April 2010 or around that, until, Fiscal Year 2015 i.e. until Oct, 2014. Good luck to all high-skilled workers, including me

USCIS has confirmed the same in the bulletin --

"Despite the retrogression of the China and India Employment Second preference cut-off date to August 15, 2007, demand for numbers by applicants with priority dates earlier than that date remained excessive. Such demand is primarily based on cases which had originally been filed with the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) for adjustment of status in the Employment Third preference category, and are now eligible to be upgraded to Employment Second preference status. The potential amount of such “upgrade” demand is not currently being reported, but it was evident that the continued availability of Employment Second preference numbers for countries other than China and India was being jeopardized. Therefore, it was necessary to make the China and India Employment Second preference category “Unavailable” in early April, and it will remain so for the remainder of FY-2012."
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Teddy & other gurus,

My situation:
Category: EB2 INDIA
Priority Date: June 27 2007

Employer A: Approved PERM labor and I-140 (Priority date June 27 2007)
Employer B: Applied for PERM labor on 3/25/2011 and is stuck in RFE.
Employer C: Applied for PERM labor on 5/9/2012
Employer A confirmed that they are not going to revoke I-140.
I am waiting for PERM labor from Employer C to be approved, which might take 2 to 3 months if no RFEs and planning on filing I-140 under premium processing and port my priority date.
Based on June 2012 VISA BULLETIN EB2 INDIA will become unavailable.
Employer A is willing to hire me back but is not willing to provide proof of employment letter needed to apply I-485.
I wanted to apply for I-485 with an Employment letter dated January 2010 by Employer A and the rest of the other supporting documents.
I will join Employer A after I get my EAD or continue with Employer C and apply for AC-21 after 6 months from I-485 Receipt date.

Let me know if this will work.

Thanks
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Here is the link - Visa Bulletin For June 2012
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