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Old 08-13-2013, 08:21 PM
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The dramatic jump in EB3 is really good news overall. Best of luck.
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Old 08-14-2013, 08:26 AM
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I have a feeling last year there was a huge number porting from EB3 to EB2 for India. Because all EB3-I candidates between 2003-2008 have more than 5 Yrs exp. This is why EB3 date has moved beyond expectations. In the coming months, I won't be surprised to see further forward movement of EB3 priority dates.
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Old 08-14-2013, 09:20 AM
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And the spillover from Eb2/EB3 china helped EB3-I i think. Atleast according to the demand data.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:42 AM
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With so much porting going on, shouldn't EB3-I jump, too? I would think that if the EB-2 dates are being held in 2004 due to high porting, EB3-I should eventually jump forward by 6 months due to the same reason. Just my random musing, not based on any data.
This thread has 440 pages. I wonder if some admins can delete (or archive) everything but the first and last 2 pages. Who cares about the rest?
EB3 did jump by more than 6 months, although for different reasons possibly.
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Old 08-14-2013, 12:01 PM
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EB3 did jump by more than 6 months, although for different reasons possibly.
I think it is combination of

1) Eb 3 to Eb 2 Porting
2) EB 3 row spillover

eb 3 DATES for ROW have gone up.DOS also states the same thing.
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Old 08-16-2013, 09:20 PM
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Can experts (Teddy) weigh in why the dates have jumped the way they have done?
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:30 AM
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I'm not Teddy, but the dates moved because the spillover numbers need to be used up by 9/30/2013 for EB. The only way to do that is to move the PDs and approve cases which become current and apply the numbers DoS says it have available.

With porting, there is double counting of the data. So many EB3-I folks who may have gained GC by porting to EB2 are still counted in the EB3-I data since their dates aren't/weren't current in that category. When it becomes current, the data may be updated to reflect the true waiting applications.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:52 AM
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Now your mention of "double data counting" is interesting since there is a trend in the dates for China too.
Their EB3 has actually shot ahead of EB2 by almost 2 years. Just reminds me of everyone trying to get into the adjacent fast lane in traffic and eventually both lanes pretty much normalizing. With EB2-India dates going all the way back to Sep 2004 previously and EB3 now jumping to end 2003 seems to be showing a closing gap.
Fresh demand data will be interesting especially if we see retrogression in EB2(and to what point) again by the end of the year. Will the 2 lanes finally land up being closer to each other meaning whoever wanted to port prior to 2004 has already done so..........also how much new demand the dates having moved rapidly has generated will be interesting.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:58 AM
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I'm not Teddy, but the dates moved because the spillover numbers need to be used up by 9/30/2013 for EB. The only way to do that is to move the PDs and approve cases which become current and apply the numbers DoS says it have available.

With porting, there is double counting of the data. So many EB3-I folks who may have gained GC by porting to EB2 are still counted in the EB3-I data since their dates aren't/weren't current in that category. When it becomes current, the data may be updated to reflect the true waiting applications.
Thanks buddy Iam also one ordinary guy like you. My personal take is that the dates for all categories have been pushed forward quite generously so as to use all available numbers.
For EB3 especially the main reason is that the EB3 ROW demand pipeline is lean even after the date movements in the previous bulletins so those are the numbers that EB3 India and China may stand to gain. If everyone current in September gets approved it would be very good otherwise letís hope for maximum possible approvals, at some point in September all numbers will get exhausted similar to what happens every year.
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Old 08-19-2013, 01:48 PM
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Hello Teddy & Others,
Firstly, a big thanks for all the wealth of information being shared on this site. It's probable that the answer to my below question can be searched for within this thread, but I would appreciate a current response:

My priority date is 18 Feb 2003 in the EB3 category. I had applied for 485 in July 2007. I recall fingerprinting being completed around the same time and don't think I got another call for fingerprinting.

- Is it possible that I am asked to undergo fingerprinting again or perform any other actions?
- What is the site where I would register and be able to check the status of my 485 approval?
- Can I perform any actions that will trigger action on my case?

Thanks so much.
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Old 08-19-2013, 02:11 PM
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Hoping that the following statement will be true or will be better than this
NewsFlash! February 2008 Best Case Estimate for EB2 India ę Murthy Law Firm : U.S. Immigration Law

Are there chances that dates will retrogress after Aug/Sept 2013 for EB 2?

Regards

See what happened to Murthy's estimate and same for all other so called pundits!

I think our folks here know much more than these high rolling lawyers..
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Old 08-20-2013, 07:21 AM
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:42 AM
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Thanks buddy Iam also one ordinary guy like you. My personal take is that the dates for all categories have been pushed forward quite generously so as to use all available numbers.
For EB3 especially the main reason is that the EB3 ROW demand pipeline is lean even after the date movements in the previous bulletins so those are the numbers that EB3 India and China may stand to gain. If everyone current in September gets approved it would be very good otherwise letís hope for maximum possible approvals, at some point in September all numbers will get exhausted similar to what happens every year.
Can you or anyone confirm if there was a spillover from EB3ROW to India? Is any lawyer saying yes or no to it?

If there is a spillover it is against the law. Spillover to EB3 India cannot happen until EB3ROW is current. EB3ROW are unaware about this if it has happened to them. It is good for Indians who are backlogged but would have been good if CO had clarified.
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Old 08-20-2013, 03:30 PM
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Can you or anyone confirm if there was a spillover from EB3ROW to India? Is any lawyer saying yes or no to it?

If there is a spillover it is against the law. Spillover to EB3 India cannot happen until EB3ROW is current. EB3ROW are unaware about this if it has happened to them. It is good for Indians who are backlogged but would have been good if CO had clarified.

1) They have to apply the law.So that what they did ? If what they did was wrong,they would be challenged.DOS should clear all doubts about visa bulletin& movement of dates
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Old 08-21-2013, 10:56 AM
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Awesome news for EB3 folks. Any reason for this dramatic jump? I hope it is not a typo
My guess is that significant approvals on interfilin cases. Approving one 485 related with interfiling removes two numbers - one from EB2 and one from EB3. Same pattern repeats for associated family members. I think that is the reason we see progression in both EB2-I and EB3 - I. I am hesitant to buy the EB3 Raw sillover theory.
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