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Old 07-11-2008, 04:38 PM
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Quote from July VB

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bu...etin_4252.html

F. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY

Demand for numbers, primarily by USCIS for adjustment of status cases, will bring the entire Employment Third preference category to the annual numerical limit by the end of June. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in July and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and Employment Third preference availability will return to the cut-off dates established for June in October, the first month of the new fiscal year.

Quote from August VB

http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bu...etin_4310.html

D. EMPLOYMENT THIRD PREFERENCE “OTHER WORKER” VISA AVAILABILITY

Demand for numbers will result in the Employment Third preference Other Worker category reaching the annual FY-2008 numerical limit. As a result, this category will become “unavailable” beginning in August and will remain so for the remainder of FY-2008. Such action will only be temporary, however, and the Employment Third preference Other Worker cut-off date will return to 01JAN03 in October, the first month of the new fiscal year.


Cut-off date from June 2008 VB for EB3 Category.

01MAR06 All
22MAR03 China
01NOV01 India
01JUL02 Mexico
01MAR06 PHILIP-PINES


So starting from FY09 (October 2008 VB and later), based on the above quote, that EB3 Cut-off date for China/India might at least start from Mar 03/Nov 01 and then move very slowly. Most people who did not go through backlog elimination center for LC, already got their GC, with the few unlucky exception, who got stuck in Name check, etc... Also in July there were a flood of 485's filed. Most of them are with PD 2004/2005 (Start of PERM). Also they could be too many Labor Substitutions done before July 31, when the actual Labor sub. ended. The EB3 Cutoff dates could slowly progress to early 2004 or even later 2004, as many folks waited for PERM, etc.. to file labor and hoping some ported to EB2 from EB3, etc..

unless the world wide EB3 becomes current and EB2 world wide also stays current and if the unused visa numbers from wordwide starts to trickle down to China/India, there is very slim chances for significant movement in EB3 cut-off dates. Other solution could only come from Congress, but that seems unlikely in a election year or even next year.

Every prediction of VB cut off date movement is always proved wrong again and again. At least by now, USCIS/DOs should have a clear statistics on the pending application, PD's, Country of chargeability for visa number and give a good guidance on the approximate processing times in future VB's.
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Old 07-11-2008, 04:58 PM
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The big question is that why so called "IV leadership" is not filling a FOIA request for how many EB3-I cases pending till date. Infact they should ask numbers for all the categories and their priority dates. It should be simple SQL query for USCIS.

This such a burning issue and so many people are suffering from it. I still don't get it why would IV is not raising this issue... Can some one from leadership group respond please.......
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many individuals have tried filing an FOIA...

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Even bigger question is why are you not filing FOIA request.
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EB3 I will be 01 Jan 03 in October..
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Old 07-11-2008, 06:26 PM
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many individuals have tried filing an FOIA...
IV Team should file FOIA.
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dude, thats Other Workers not EB3 I. I
t will not be jan 03 even if Ajmeri Baba says it will 01 Jan 03 in October because the July bulletin says that it will REVERT back to JUNE PD in OCT.


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EB3 I will be 01 Jan 03 in October..
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now it seems to hit that 04-05 EB2 are making merry...Good for them..I am hoping that eb3 also moves
Me not.
#1 I'll be getting 1 year EAD.
#2 My Priority Date is current but not Processing Date (Attroney Problem: they also try to delay maximum to milk maximum). I may suffer years of delay, because GC numbers will go to people with later Priority Dates.

However I am glad for others - as a team. Just wanted to express that not everyone is making merry.

I read a story in childhood:
One person had two daughters, married his daughters to a Farmer and to a Potter. He visited his both daughters, first one wanted rain and the second one wanted hot sun. That person could not make wish.

Moral of story is that every one can not be happy. There is not always win-win situation.

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I read a story in childhood:
One person had two daughters, married his daughters to a Farmer and to a Potter. He visited his both daughters, first one wanted rain and the second one wanted hot sun. That person could not make wish.

Moral of story is that every one can not be happy. There is not always win-win situation.
Nice story...reminds of the phrase - zero-sum-game...
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Default At least no watage on Visa numbers

The only good thing about this is that USCIS is trying not to waste any numbers. It will benefit everybody in long run whether its EB2 or Eb3.

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Me not.
#1 I'll be getting 1 year EAD.
#2 My Priority Date is current but not Processing Date (Attroney Problem: they also try to delay maximum to milk maximum). I may suffer years of delay, because GC numbers will go to people with later Priority Dates.

However I am glad for others - as a team. Just wanted to express that not everyone is making merry.

I read a story in childhood:
One person had two daughters, married his daughters to a Farmer and to a Potter. He visited his both daughters, first one wanted rain and the second one wanted hot sun. That person could not make wish.

Moral of story is that every one can not be happy. There is not always win-win situation.
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In a recent testimony given by the USCIS to the Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, they said that they had made several changes in their process to avoid wastage of visa numbers. A major strategy change adopted was to adjudicate those applications first that had a better chance of being assigned a visa number, in view of the current visa bulletin trend.

Since EB3-I and EB2-I are already way over subscribed, the USCIS intentionally picks ROW cases for adjudication over EB2-I and EB3-I. As a result, there aren't enough EB3-I and EB2-I cases that are pre-adjudicated to be assigned a visa number when time comes. So, more EB3-ROW and EB2-ROW cases that are processed are approved and the trend continues.
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The only possible manner in which EB3-I and EB3-China can get any spill overs is if all EB1 and EB2 are current, and EB3-ROW is current. Otherwise, it is the mandated 3000 or so visas per year.

What amazes me is that thousands of people claim to be stuck in EB3-I, but there were less than 200 calls and less than 200 contributions to the funding drive. Just mind boggling.
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The more I think about this issue/process, the more ridiculous it seems.

Consider this:

The position for which the advertising was done 7 years ago, for which no American was willing, qualified and available to work, is still available to the foreigner when he get's the green card! This impiles that there have been no changes whatsoever in the condition of the workforce in that particular georgraphical area, and still there is no American available to do that job.

Un-freakin-believable. The system has become a joke.
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I think the green card should be given out the day the labor application is approved. If there is a requirement for you to work in that georgraphical area, for that business, for a permanant position - then what is the point in delaying the green card by seven eight years, which they are going to give out anyway?
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The only possible manner in which EB3-I and EB3-China can get any spill overs is if all EB1 and EB2 are current, and EB3-ROW is current. Otherwise, it is the mandated 3000 or so visas per year.

What amazes me is that thousands of people claim to be stuck in EB3-I, but there were less than 200 calls and less than 200 contributions to the funding drive. Just mind boggling.
Why are you amazed? With all the efforts and contributions, all the EB3 persons are still stuck while EB2 are moving forward quickly. Given this fact, anyone who has a brain will give it a second thought before contributing. Right?
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Agreed. There was no single relief for EB3-I from any Admin fixes and any compaign. In fact, it made it even worse where EB2-ROW spillover was given to EB2-I/C.

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