New DL renewal Procedure
New DL renewal Procedure is a painful process which started August 1, 2006.
The process involves;
1. Visiting a DMV office and they will ask for your documents and give you a case number which you will present to MVI.
2. MVI will investigate your immigration status with USCIS and you will receive a letter after 5-7 days. If there is a problem, it will take upto 9 weeks. This means, you cannot drive until they have verified your legal status in the US.
This is a new procedure and I know a couple of friends who currently cannot drive because they cannot renew their license.
At first, DMV branches were unaware of this new procedure.
Has anyone been through this new process and successfully pass through MVI and renewed their license or is anyone waiting for the letter from MVI for more than 7 days.
Which state are we talking about here?
This US wide and not a state wide. Homeland security and DMV wanted to use a new database to track immigrants.
R u sure about this ??
R u sure about this.. I know that as of yesterday VA DMV was issuing licenses /permits to H1-B holders without anything you mentioned...I am not sure..but every state has different rules for license issue and there is no national policy for this ???
No national policy...
Looks like there is no national policy in DMV license renewal.
I renewed my DL in NJ on Aug 31st 2006. The process is the same as in they will verify and give you the license right away. It took me 40 minutes as I went during rush hour.
ofcourse NJ licenses are until the validity on your Visa/I94.
thanks villamonte6100 to bring this issue up to IV notice. btw in which state you had this problem?
I know few states have their own set of rules for license renewal or for first time license issue, but not sure whether entire US states are asking for more immigration related documents during the renewal and that too taking 9wks verification as you said, nt sure whether it is true...
may be IV core team should open a link, should ask everyone to post if they had similar experience recently in their states so that we can find out more fact abt this issue.
based on what you said "9 wks verification for immigration status", incase if it is true, then we are getting backlog (retrogression) problem even in driver license renewal.....we have this retrogression problem in gc process, name check process, etc...
hope it is not true, otherwise we have to add this to IV goals in home page and we have to start working on it.....
I just renewed mine today (FL). It was the regular drill: passport, i-94, social security card (optional) and that's it. My new DL will be in the mail in 30 days. In the meanwhile, they gave me a paper one.
Less than a month ago, I got mine renewed in IL(it expires in a year). Why take a chance with all the new policies?
I got mine renewed. The lady at the counter asked the following questions:
a) Are you a registered voter?
b) Are you a US citizen?
Got it till 2011.
DMV office asking some H1Bs to go to MVI office
One of my friend who is on H1 went to DMV office to change State from TX to Colorado and they gave him a case number asked him to go to MVI office for immigration status check in Denver...
This one happened couple of months ago, I don't know whether my friend went to MVI office or not.
Few months back, 2 DMV officers gave me a tough time in CT. I wrote strong complaint and got a reply that, it will be allright if I go again and I went for the 3rd time and got it without hasstles.
Here is what happened
Dear Mr. XXXXX,
This reply is in response to your email of 5/20/06 in which you
the difficult time you have had in obtaining a CT license. Please be
advised that if the documents are not acceptable when you return you
ask the Sergeant or Supervisor to complete a form for 'Review of Non-US
Citizen Documents'. In this process copies of your documents are
forwarded to our Branch Operations Division for further review. You
be notified of the outcome by mail.
Thank you for taking the time to write and bringing this matter to our
Elaine McDougal, Div. Chief
CT Dept of Motor Vehicles
Branch Operations Division
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 5:05 PM
Subject: Documentation for obtaining a CT drivers license
Ralph J. Carpenter
DMV, Connecticut State
I hope this email finds you in good health and best of spirits.
I am a new resident to the State of Connecticut. I am on a h1b visa
(Skilled worker visa) and have been in the United States for 6 years.
employer is based out of Irving, Texas and I am employed fulltime with
them. My company sends me on work assignments to various clients all
over the United States. I recently started on a work assignment at
Pitney Bowes located in Shelton, CT. All this while when I am in United
States, I have worked in the states of Georgia, New York and Washington
and have obtained drivers licenses from all these states. I have
maintained legal status and always carry my documents whenever I
interact with a govt agency like DMV.
From the time I have started my work assignment in CT, I have
approached the DMV twice. Both the times I was turned back saying that
my documentation is not acceptable.
DMV, Bridgeport, CT:
Issuing officer wanted a document from my employer that says that I
am still employed with them and have not switched employers. I asked
officer polietly if there is anything she is expecting to see in the
document (in terms of information like kind of work, nature of work,
place of work etc...) and she was very kind in explaining to me that
she wanted to know was if I actually work for the employer who holds my
visa. I told her that I will come back again with the letter.
DMV, Hamden, CT:
After obtaining a employment letter from my employer I chose to go
to DMV, Hamden, CT because it is close to my home. The issuing officer
looked at all my documents and then told me the employer letter was
unacceptable because it is generated by a computer. I asked him what
document is he actually looking for. He said he cannot accept a
generated document. I was confused. Then he showed me my employer
and told me he cannot accept it because it is printed from a computer.
told him it is generated from the computer so whats wrong with
employment letter generated from a printer connected to a computer. I
understood what he was trying to say. He just had concerns with the
validity of my employment letter.
Nothing wrong in having concerns about validity of employment letters.
He was just not able to express that to me. As I have the habit of
carrying all my documents, I showed all my legal documents like LCA
(that I am working in Shelton, CT) , my h1b documents etc... to make
comfortable of the fact that my employment letter is indeed valid. But
at this point he just did not want to listen or see anything instead he
kept arguing that this is CT and rules here are different and he would
not see any documents or papers and he only wants an employer letter.
And I told him that is right in front of his eyes. He says he cannot
accept it because it is a computer generated document.
Then I asked him what he really wants? He argued that he wants an
employer letter that is not a computer generated document but a actual
document. Then his collegue came to his resque and told me that he is
actually looking for a document that explains clearly the reason I am
CT and details of my work location from my employer etc... I asked him
to write it down in a piece of paper what he actually wants. His
collegue wrote down in a piece of paper that an employment letter
stating my work location as Shelton, CT is what they are looking for
I can get my out of state license transfer once I have that document. I
wanted a official letter from the issuing officer stating what they
really want and they were not willing to give me that. So I asked him
again what he wants next time. He said he wants a letter from my
employer that I am working in Shelton, CT and work details etc....
There is a lot of confusion over the issue with actual
documentation required. The best thing to do to check validity of h1b
visa holders is to actually ask for recent paystubs and w2 forms. These
forms have employer names and if any H1b visa holder. If the issuing
officer has concerns with documentation validity of a h1b visa holder,
then the best thing would be to have a employment background check done
or look at paystubs and w2 etc... Or specify what kind of letter they
are looking from an employer so that they can be convinced that the
candidate is a valid visa holder.
Though I will be going back to the DMV sometime next week with letter
they requested for, I felt it is my duty to suggest to DMV a good
of validity for h1b visa holders.
Dear Sir, Connecticut is one of the most beautiful states I have ever
lived and I am enjoying my stay in Connecticut. H1b visa holders are
skilled workers and we assimilate into the society while we contribute
what we can and work hard to maintain our status and are on a tough
to obtaining permanant residency.
Please treat my suggestion as a welcome suggestion and make it fair to
both the employees of DMV and non citizens as to what they or we can
accept and what not.
Greened on September 10th, 2010
Last edited by chanduv23; 02-27-2009 at 11:37 AM.
temp drivers permit
You have a right to demand what is called a temp driving permit which is for 30 days. if your case is not resolved in 30 days, you can go back and get another. this can go on till your case is completed. While carrying the temp cert, since there is no photo ID, i advise you carry your passport or any other photo ID.
All this is from a lawyer who helped us when we went to get our licenses renewed. State was INdiana
MA DMV Renewal
I guess I should be ecstatic! I was able to renew my Mass driver's license online...no going to the DMV, no (pointless) check of random documents, no rude state officials. I received a 5 year driver's license (my 8th yr H1-B expires next year) in the mail within 7 days of my online application.
Moral of the story...move to Massachusetts!
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