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Old 07-29-2008, 01:54 PM
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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
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impact will be close to nothing..

Of all the ~200K or so people stuck in the muck....only about 30K are members of this site...from that 30 K I am not sure how many will participate...even with a 30K number it will be hard to make heads turn....so lets concentrate on IV initiatives instead.
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Don't understand why you have reds all over. Granted , this is the craziest idea and has 0 in a million chance.

But your other post is a $100 contribution. You are better than most. At least contributed some money
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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
Hi CVRNR,

Your idea is not bad at all but as jonty put in...without numbers it is not possible to make any noticible effect. Plus, I think most of our employers (HR level) already know of the GC issue and not showing up for work might put out immediete managers/colleagues to difficulty and not really impact the upper mgmt.

Still, good thinking out of the box, you should continue to put out ideas like this. Also, check with IV core, they can also guide you if something is feasible.

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Old 07-29-2008, 02:41 PM
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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
The only person who gets mad with this non-cooperation will be your better half But at the same time he/she will come to know how difficult it would be to live without you

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The only person who gets mad with this non-cooperation will be your better half But at the same time he/she will come to know how difficult it would be to live without you
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I am not sure if this will have noticeable effect. I was wondering about getting letters from our respective supervisors ( director's, VP's ) addressed to local senators (or pertinent authorities). I am not sure if this has been contemplated in the past. In my personal experience , I have found a great deal of sympathy and concern from my supervisors towards the GC delay. I am sure , if I request a letter on a corporate letterhead, I would get one. Question is , would that make a substantial noise? Thoughts anyone? Does it sound practical?

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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
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Here is why this may be a bad idea.

1) Things like non co-operation are counter productive. You are punishing your employer for injustice that you are facing while dealing with Government organizations. Your employer (in most cases) is not the one holding your green card back, the USCIS/DHS/DOS is, based on demand v/s supply.

2) Non co-operation is the right of citizens which we are not. I know we are referring to when Gandhiji successfully executed non co-operation, but the MAJOR difference was the numbers and the fact that non co-operation was done by Indians IN INDIA.

3) The I.T in this country is not run SOLELY by immigrants. In my current and previous companies atleast I have seen that at times, I am the ONLY one on an H1B. In such cases, if the HR/supervisor is not sympathetic towards that cause, the employee could face DIRE consequences, as he/she is almost "on strike" and that too in a minority. In my opinion, even if ALL 200K immigrants did it for a couple of days, it would have almost a zero impact.

Lastly, getting every single immigrant to participate in such an event is not just a Herculean but an IMPOSSIBLE effort.

This issues has been discussed a lot of times over the years, just in case you are new to IV. On the flip side, please stop giving "red dots" to this user, just coz he suggested something.

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Don't understand why you have reds all over. Granted , this is the craziest idea and has 0 in a million chance.

But your other post is a $100 contribution. You are better than most. At least contributed some money
donating $ 5 ?? Easier than skipping a day at the job !!

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First of all skipping work citing this as a reason might get you fired. Are you prepared to become out of status?

As others have suggested, it's unlikely that we'll be able to make a significant dent in the GDP by not buying. Even if we do and the economy gets worse as a result, people are going to lose jobs, which is not in our best interest. I think we should spend more to boost the economy so that our employers don't have to cut jobs.

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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
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I like the flower campaign like things better than this, I think Flower campaing like idea will definetly bring some attention.
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I agree to do Non Co-opertation to your proposed "Movement".

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For all those people who are waiting for the GC

decide on a date.
all the pepole who are aiting for their gc skip their work on that the day.stop all activities on that day (shopping..... etc)
and let the people know how difficult it would be to live without you.....
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I like the flower campaign like things better than this, I think Flower campaing like idea will definetly bring some attention.
Hey I'm up for a flower campaign to NSC and TSC

How about we target Labor Day weekend?
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Yeah it might be a good time to start another "Flower campaign". The only question is, who do we send flowers to?

My suggestion is to send flowers to the CHC members to keep opposing our provisions.
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Yeah it might be a good time to start another "Flower campaign". The only question is, who do we send flowers to?

My suggestion is to send flowers to the CHC members to keep opposing our provisions.
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