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Old 11-09-2015, 06:25 PM
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The thread is open for comments for F1 OPT STEM extension. Please add your comments there. It seems a lot of negative comments have been added, opposing the F1 STEM extension:

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These students deserve your support.
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Old 11-09-2015, 07:10 PM
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The thread is open for comments for F1 OPT STEM extension. Please add your comments there. It seems a lot of negative comments have been added, opposing the F1 STEM extension:

Regulations.gov

These students deserve your support.
I am not opposed to this rule. The only problem with this rule is that it is biased. Why to ignore students who have paid/are paying the fee and are not in STEM category? What wrong have they done? On one side we are talking about fairness in immigration and on the other side we want to support this biased act? It is unfair.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:46 PM
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I am not opposed to this rule. The only problem with this rule is that it is biased. Why to ignore students who have paid/are paying the fee and are not in STEM category? What wrong have they done? On one side we are talking about fairness in immigration and on the other side we want to support this biased act? It is unfair.

Just because not all can get it, you don't want STEM applicants to get it also. Your choice, but I will still encourage you to think about it.
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Old 11-09-2015, 10:53 PM
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Just because not all can get it, you don't want STEM applicants to get it also. Your choice, but I will still encourage you to think about it.
No, my point is that there should be a fairness here too. Considering STEM over others is not fair as others have also paid their fee, have put in their time and energy too...then why only STEM?
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I haven't read the complete rule but thought did cross my mind why just STEM? There are other fields like Psychology, Special Ed. etc. where students are putting equal / more efforts.
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:03 AM
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I haven't read the complete rule but thought did cross my mind why just STEM? There are other fields like Psychology, Special Ed. etc. where students are putting equal / more efforts.
What is the need for additional 24 months training. Basically it is a back door way of increase of H1b without any salary restrictions or cap. Backlog will increase due to this as many of them could file GC in OPT period itself. If there is no OPT STEM extension many future students will suffer. But that is not the excuse to increase the cheap labor
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:15 AM
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What is the need for additional 24 months training. Basically it is a back door way of increase of H1b without any salary restrictions or cap. Backlog will increase due to this as many of them could file GC in OPT period itself. If there is no OPT STEM extension many future students will suffer. But that is not the excuse to increase the cheap labor
Your choice. I hope you feel good about it.
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:52 AM
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No, my point is that there should be a fairness here too. Considering STEM over others is not fair as others have also paid their fee, have put in their time and energy too...then why only STEM?
i know of some universities who name their courses even non stem ones (like MBA related )
such that they satisfy the requirements of one of the STEM ones

Now the students have to research and find out about it ,but its possible to study some courses in your non stem field and still get benefit of STEM course .

And as you may know unlike employment visa ,its quite easy to switch to another course
after joining also .

So i think instead of cribbing of what is Fair ,look at it as there are ways it would help most of the students ( non stem or stem)
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Old 11-10-2015, 12:59 AM
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i know of some universities who name their courses even non stem ones (like MBA related )
such that they satisfy the requirements of one of the STEM ones

Now the students have to research and find out about it ,but its possible to study some courses in your non stem field and still get benefit of STEM course .

And as you may know unlike employment visa ,its quite easy to switch to another course
after joining also .

So i think instead of cribbing of what is Fair ,look at it as there are ways it would help most of the students ( non stem or stem)
I don't think anyone is talking here about what students get. It is about why STEM is considered "superior" over other courses when every student is working hard and putting money/time/energy equally as STEM students do...
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Old 11-10-2015, 01:33 AM
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I don't think anyone is talking here about what students get. It is about why STEM is considered "superior" over other courses when every student is working hard and putting money/time/energy equally as STEM students do...
Because it's beneficial for American economy. Helps America.
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Old 11-10-2015, 02:29 AM
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Because it's beneficial for American economy. Helps America.
Wow...first give them extension and then screw them in long green card queues.
I can now see the discrimination clearly.
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Old 11-10-2015, 04:45 AM
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Wow...first give them extension and then screw them in long green card queues.
I can now see the discrimination clearly.
atleast this extension gives them a chance to be eligible to apply for H1 couple of times during opt ,otherwise they would have to definitely go back if they cant get into lottery the very first year despite being with a genuine offer .
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The thread is open for comments for F1 OPT STEM extension. Please add your comments there. It seems a lot of negative comments have been added, opposing the F1 STEM extension:

Regulations.gov

These students deserve your support.
It is very important to educate F1 students on this. I will definitely leave a positive comment on this.

On one side it will help students by giving them multiple chances at H1b, It really helped me out when the rule first came out and my H1 did not get picked (hence my username).

The other side is I can see employers exploiting this by filling their temp positions with OPT candidates and not filing H1 till their 3 year of OPT and screwing them over. It is very important for students to request their employers the first year and not fall for "You need not pay social and medicare of F1 trick". I have seen many students fall for this and get burnt.
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This is a very bad rule. We must oppose it. OPT is another way for low wages and exploitation. Companies and lawyers like it but immigrants work in a fear of losing status and wondering if they might get their precious H1B.

We need to oppose it.
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Everybody is looking for cheap labor without rights, so they can exploit them.
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