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Old 05-16-2008, 12:19 AM
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Default Labor substitution in July 07: I-140 Approval Receipt- Beneficiary name

Hi,
Does anybody have this problem?
Labor substitution: I-140 Approved recently.
I-140 Approval Receipt shows Beneficiary as name of the Original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted) instead of new beneficiary.

My employer/attorney did not share I-140 approval Receipt with me.
So I went to infopass and asked the immigration officer to verify my I-140 approval notice details against my I-140 Receipt number.
He told me that your I-140 approval receipt does not have your name. I asked him about the name of beneficiary on I-140 receipt. He told me the name (It was the name of original beneficiary). I was shocked.

Does this mean this is not my I-140? or all I-140s with labor substitutions have name of original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted and not the person who is substituting labor)?

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Old 05-16-2008, 02:39 AM
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Default Labor Substitution - Unethical

It is unethical to go for some one else's labor. It is not in good terms with one's conscience to cut the line and cheat some one of his hard earned spot.
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:52 AM
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Hi,
Does anybody have this problem?
Labor substitution: I-140 Approved recently.
I-140 Approval Receipt shows Beneficiary as name of the Original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted) instead of new beneficiary.

My employer/attorney did not share I-140 approval Receipt with me.
So I went to infopass and asked the immigration officer to verify my I-140 approval notice details against my I-140 Receipt number.
He told me that your I-140 approval receipt does not have your name. I asked him about the name of beneficiary on I-140 receipt. He told me the name (It was the name of original beneficiary). I was shocked.

Does this mean this is not my I-140? or all I-140s with labor substitutions have name of original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted and not the person who is substituting labor)?
something like that happens when you break line and try to get ahead of others....
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:53 AM
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It is unethical to go for some one else's labor. It is not in good terms with one's conscience to cut the line and cheat some one of his hard earned spot.
Please nobody should reply.
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Old 05-16-2008, 08:51 AM
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Restart your process again from the scratch (like all of us) and next time do not even think of cutting the line.

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Hi,
Does anybody have this problem?
Labor substitution: I-140 Approved recently.
I-140 Approval Receipt shows Beneficiary as name of the Original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted) instead of new beneficiary.

My employer/attorney did not share I-140 approval Receipt with me.
So I went to infopass and asked the immigration officer to verify my I-140 approval notice details against my I-140 Receipt number.
He told me that your I-140 approval receipt does not have your name. I asked him about the name of beneficiary on I-140 receipt. He told me the name (It was the name of original beneficiary). I was shocked.

Does this mean this is not my I-140? or all I-140s with labor substitutions have name of original beneficiary (whose labor was substituted and not the person who is substituting labor)?
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:41 AM
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TESTUSER1510 - No, Even in the labor substitute case the I-140 approval has to have your name. In your case, USCIS has messed up and printed the original benificiary. Talk to your attorney and ask him to check your I-140 application. If that contained your name (i think it is because you said your 140 receipt has your name), then its a pure clerical mistake and USCIS should fix it.
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Old 05-16-2008, 09:49 AM
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TESTUSER1510 - No, Even in the labor substitute case the I-140 approval has to have your name. In your case, USCIS has messed up and printed the original benificiary. Talk to your attorney and ask him to check your I-140 application. If that contained your name (i think it is because you said your 140 receipt has your name), then its a pure clerical mistake and USCIS should fix it.
I guess so.

Guys why do you depress that guy so much. He is not the only guy used a pre approved labor.

Mine is not a substituted Labor.

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Old 05-16-2008, 09:54 AM
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TESTUSER1510 - Sometime employers bluff you by giving wrong LIN number. It's should have your name as beneficiary. To that matter, my employer is not sharing I-140 information with me. He send me approval copy with Receipt Number hidden.

Best think is talk to your employer and attorney to reslove the issue (if you are sure about your LIN number)
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:11 AM
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guys, its not a crime to take a substitute labor. Don't have to be so paranoid about it. I know many people who had to take a substitute LC or they had no choice.

Just ask yourself, if you were given a choice of an old priority date, would you not take it? Unless you are a Mahatma Gandhi or Mother Teresa.

Bottom line is we are all in the same boat. You like it or not.
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Old 05-16-2008, 10:12 AM
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Let us not repond to this thread. We should stop responding to people who use labor sub and cut in line ahead of others.
Labor substitution no longer exists and when people used it, it was allowed by law. If our employers had offered us approved Labors with current PDs, most of us would have accepted them. I do not see us saying "No thanks...I am fine with waiting another five or ten years and so I will use my own Labor".

To answer the question, your 140 is not correct. Ask your lawyer to retrace his steps and see if he did something wrong. Else, it is a CIS mistake and can be fixed.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:06 AM
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Even though I hate idea of people using substituted labor I agree with other people on this forum that since it was legal we cannot cry spilt milk over it. Just to make it clear I am NOT using substituted labor. but helped some friends get it and naturally they jumped ahead of me in the line but that is life guys.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:13 AM
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I used labor sub and SO WHAT? It was perfectly OK to do so, I only gained 8 months from (aug 06 to march 07 when I field my I140) and it was the only option given to me by my employer for whom I've worked for the last 4 years. I didn't buy my LC or joined some shady consultancy firm... Before you come out with your "holier than thou" attitude, just take a few minutes to think about it and ask yourself what would you have done if you were put in front of this situation.
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Old 05-16-2008, 11:19 AM
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The funny thing is, people don't even have patience to find out whether the initiator's labor substitution is a genuine one (YES, there could be a complete genuine labor sub case with all the ethical and genuine intents...although a very very small percentage) or not before jumping on and eating him/her alive!!

May be, due to the massive labor substitution "trading" that happend, people tend to consider every sub-case as a "purchased" one. Well, they are infact correct 99% of the times!!
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:03 PM
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Guys what testuser1510 did was legal .....pls leave him alone....many of us here would have done the same if given chance.

testuser1510 your I-140 Approval receipt should have your name on it. talk to ur lawyer
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Old 05-16-2008, 12:54 PM
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If we are OK with priority date porting, we should be OK with labor substitution. PD porting is as much jumping the queue as labor substitution.

PS: I'm against both.
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