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it's not question of intelligence, rather it's the necessity.
Do we have to spend time & money and learn hindi just to read what gets scribbled in this forum??
I wasn't talking about this forum anymore. I was alluring to the situation in our country where a small group of rebellious and proud people refuse to learn what has been deemed a national language

I object to the talk of dividing the country by state, even though I like the idea myself. I reject this talk because of the reasons it assumes. Yes, even though it was a joke (a very poor one at that)

Anyway, it is obvious we will be moving away from the topic if we continue this. You are free to ignore this post
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I wasn't talking about this forum anymore. I was alluring to the situation in our country where a small group of rebellious and proud people refuse to learn what has been deemed a national language

I object to the talk of dividing the country by state, even though I like the idea myself. I reject this talk because of the reasons it assumes. Yes, even though it was a joke (a very poor one at that)

Anyway, it is obvious we will be moving away from the topic if we continue this. You are free to ignore this post
If it's needed people will learn it. Since "those" small group have not learned the "official" language, my point is "they" don't need it
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I wasn't talking about this forum anymore. I was alluring to the situation in our country where a small group of rebellious and proud people refuse to learn what has been deemed a national language
I object to the talk of dividing the country by state, even though I like the idea myself. I reject this talk because of the reasons it assumes. Yes, even though it was a joke (a very poor one at that)

Anyway, it is obvious we will be moving away from the topic if we continue this. You are free to ignore this post
How learning Hindi is going to help the small rebellious group? India has 26 official language and are you ready to learn all those official languages.

Moreover, India is a democracy and one needs to decide what they want to do or to learn.
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If it's needed people will learn it. Since "those" small group have not learned the "official" language, my point is "they" don't need it
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How learning Hindi is going to help the small rebellious group? India has 26 official language and are you ready to learn all those official languages.

Moreover, India is a democracy and one needs to decide what they want to do or to learn.
@bb The question is not whether it is needed, rather, whether people care enough and love their country enough to do a small duty to learn the national language. Why this partitionship and rigidity, and not to mention misplaced pride? If they learn it they will find use for it, and definitely not the other way round, because you cant learn a language on the spur of a moment

@nathan: Thank god, there is only one national language. If everyone starts demanding then we will all be in a nice hot soup and we can bid adieu to subjects like Science!
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@bb The question is not whether it is needed, rather, whether people care enough and love their country enough to do a small duty to learn the national language. Why this partitionship and rigidity, and not to mention misplaced pride? If they learn it they will find use for it, and definitely not the other way round, because you cant learn a language on the spur of a moment

@nathan: Thank god, there is only one national language. If everyone starts demanding then we will all be in a nice hot soup and we can bid adieu to subjects like Science!
Languages of India - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Article 345 of the Indian constitution provides recognition to "official languages" of the union to include Standard Hindi or any one or more of the languages adopted by a state legislature as the official language. Until the Twenty-First Amendment of the Constitution in 1967, the country recognised 14 official regional languages. The Eighth Schedule and the Seventy-First Amendment provided for the inclusion of Sindhi, Konkani, Manipuri and Nepali, thereby increasing the number of official regional languages of India to 18.[22] Individual states, whose borders are mostly drawn on socio-linguistic lines, are free to decide their own language for internal administration and education.

Moreover, one does not need to learn a language until there is a need or interest. I dont see any pride in that.
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Article 345 of the Indian constitution provides recognition to "official languages" of the union to include Standard Hindi or any one or more of the languages adopted by a state legislature as the official language. Until the Twenty-First Amendment of the Constitution in 1967, the country recognised 14 official regional languages. The Eighth Schedule and the Seventy-First Amendment provided for the inclusion of Sindhi, Konkani, Manipuri and Nepali, thereby increasing the number of official regional languages of India to 18.[22] Individual states, whose borders are mostly drawn on socio-linguistic lines, are free to decide their own language for internal administration and education.

Moreover, one does not need to learn a language until there is a need or interest. I dont see any pride in that.

My dear friend, you will note that I never said "Don't learn your favorite language(s)". I just said that learning (or not learning) the national language should not be a matter of misplaced pride or regionalism. The national language is something we own, so people dont think we Indians have been taught to speak by England. So here it is our own pride and dignity

IMO "A" language and "national" language should be viewed a bit differently
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My dear friend, you will note that I never said "Don't learn your favorite language(s)". I just said that learning (or not learning) the national language should not be a matter of misplaced pride or regionalism. The national language is something we own, so people dont think we Indians have been taught to speak by England. So here it is our own pride and dignity

IMO "A" language and "national" language should be viewed a bit differently
So basically you forgot how diversified India is...no more arguments..
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So basically you forgot how diversified India is...no more arguments..
Better than forgetting we are ONE nation
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My dear friend, you will note that I never said "Don't learn your favorite language(s)". I just said that learning (or not learning) the national language should not be a matter of misplaced pride or regionalism. The national language is something we own, so people dont think we Indians have been taught to speak by England. So here it is our own pride and dignity

IMO "A" language and "national" language should be viewed a bit differently
India doesn't have single national language period. Hindi and other 14 languages plus English are just official languages to facilitate communication and commerce between states. If two parties or states will have to agree on the language communicate to trade or exchange ideas. That's where Hindi gets knocked out and English gets used. I don't speak or understand Hindi. So I don't deal with conversation in Hindi. I am happy with it and I don't want damn my country to tell what language I should be learning. That's individual liberty and choice.
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Friends, let's not confuse between what IS, and what SHOULD be.

On my part, I agree, maybe there is no "national" language (just read the wikipedia). But on the other hand, we have the official Indian language, which is Hindi

Where I grew up, Hindi was a second language, English was first and the regional language was last

I was given no choice and the regional language, and even the second and first languages were forced upon me.

If we extend the doctrine of individual liberty and choice I would not have shortlisted any of the subjects other than maths and science . Oh, and maybe drawing and PT (LOL)
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Good that you found out there is no national language. Even if there is one, it does not need to be embraced by all just because the word "national" is added to it. People may recognize something "national" as "national". But they don't have to necessarily embrace it. That is where the question of necessity comes into picture. Convenience and interest also matter. Best cases are our national sport and calendar. How many times have you played or watched hockey? How many times have you referred to our national calendar?

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