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Default The curious case of Rajendrasinh B. Makwana Commentary: Fannie Mae technical mischief

Too many from India lack ethics, from CEOs to programmers !


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/curious-case-rajendrasinh-b-makwana/story.aspx?guid={B33B2F32-063F-4B85-8240-F63687564BDF}


t was only a fluke, according to all the reports Friday, that a malicious piece of code was found on the Fannie Mae (FNM:
Fannie Mae servers. It was designed to go off Saturday and erase all the data and screw up the company.
It was placed there by Makwana, an Indian national and former Fannie Mae contractor, according to a federal indictment. If it was part of some greater scheme, then we can assume that on Jan. 31, the date his program was supposed to kick in, a slew of computer networks will go down. Generally speaking, this sort of thing is more of an inconvenience than a catastrophe.

Why was Makwana working at Fannie Mae in the first place? Are you telling me no American citizen could have done his job?

No large corporation in the U.S. or elsewhere is without archival backup. This means that the systems and the data are not only backed up but backed up over and over and over, using an archival methodology, so that data recreation can be done on the basis of dates.
The practices for this sort of backup vary, and the size of the archives are usually measured in years. Also, most of the archives are either redundant or kept in a secure vault. There is one of these data vaults, for example, under a mountain in Switzerland guarded by the Swiss military.
To do permanent damage, you would have to fry the computers -- as Makwana apparently was trying to do at Fannie -- and then burn down the local and the remote archives.
According to most of the chatter about this incident, under a worst-case scenario Fannie Mae would have been offline for a week, and people would be grousing a lot.
If you follow all the security-oriented Web sites, there is a huge concern over cyberwar and attacks on the Internet. There is now so much dependency on the Internet for commerce and communication that if it went down for two or three days all hell would break loose.
This is the real threat to society, not the sinking of Fannie Mae. But the strange case of Makwana does bring up a number of issues. The main one is the use of H1B visa workers -- and holders of other alien-worker documentation -- in sensitive areas.
Why was Makwana working at Fannie Mae in the first place? Are you telling me no American citizen could have done his job?
This is not a new concern. It has long been believed that in most cases H1B visas in technology have been exploited by companies such as Fannie Mae only because programmers coming from India work cheaper. But there is no way of knowing much about any of these folks, and that immediately becomes a homeland-security issue.
Over the years, companies like Fannie Mae have been begging for more and more H1B visas. That means more people working cheaper than the going rate. You get what you pay for.
And now that almost every company in tech and elsewhere has laid off tens of thousands of workers, will those companies, all of a sudden, want to kill the H1B program altogether? There is no real excuse for it now. But there will be nary a peep.
Maybe things will change when big business realizes that many of today's problems stem from the fact that our citizenry was cut out of the deal in the first place -- replaced by foreign workers whenever possible.
The Makwana matter appears simply to have been a case of an ungrateful foreign contractor. At least I hope that's all it was. End of Story
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This is nothing new in US. American citizens are known to do similar thing.
That is one of the reasons many layoffs are announced on Friday and employees are escorted out of the building by managers.

US had this problem all the time, even before H1B program came to existence.
Corporations have already adapted to this situation.
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It reminds me of the transit system lockout, in Los Angeles, that was caused by the system administrator.....

Cant remember the nationality or race of that person. .... Can anyone shed light on it.


What's surprising is...that it was caught by-chance. Typically, all sys-admin interactions are journalled and made available to other admins in near real-time (to eliminate such problems). Its a great surprise a company the size of Fannie Mae did not have security process as like this.

Maybe the security/audit firm, should have been amongst the top US firm, sent engineers who, instead of really working probably used his corporate card and took the Fannie Mae employee to superbowl or nearest sports bowl..and spent time talking about their favorite team.... :-)
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I never thought John C Dvorak would be such a racist. I have read many of his articles earlier. This action is by one particular individual who happens to be an Indian but he seems to be blaming all Indians and foreigners and of course the H1-B program - everyone's whipping boy.

There have been many such fraud committed by Americans but of course none of that is mentioned. I do know this very famous case that happened in Bear Sterns when one of the Lotus Notes admin was fired. But he had expected such an action and had written a bomb that format the hard drives of many servers. It was not found in time and Bear Sterns servers were screwed up for a couple of days. This admin was found guilty and jailed.
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Singalong, looks like you just joined today to post this. Is there anything constructive you can bring to this group other than say Indians are evil?
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What a typical IA response! Play the race card! That always works!

So, if anyone mentions the term Indian, Paki, Chinese, Sri-Lankan, or any other nationality that is flooding the I.T. market with phony H-1B visas, he is automatically a racist?

And seahawks, yes together we can make a difference. Other American "Debelopers" who have seen their wages drop and jobs disappear can join a union (WashTech), or make a contribution to http://www.hireamericansfirst.org/.
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What a typical IA response! Play the race card! That always works!

So, if anyone mentions the term Indian, Paki, Chinese, Sri-Lankan, or any other nationality that is flooding the I.T. market with phony H-1B visas, he is automatically a racist?

And seahawks, yes together we can make a difference. Other American "Debelopers" who have seen their wages drop and jobs disappear can join a union (WashTech), or make a contribution to http://www.hireamericansfirst.org/.
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You are indeed a racist. Otherwise why would you think Indian, Paki, Chinese, Sri-Lankan are all aliens, but the fair-skinned ones who took this country away from Red Indians are "true Americans" ?
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What a typical IA response! Play the race card! That always works!

So, if anyone mentions the term Indian, Paki, Chinese, Sri-Lankan, or any other nationality that is flooding the I.T. market with phony H-1B visas, he is automatically a racist?

And seahawks, yes together we can make a difference. Other American "Debelopers" who have seen their wages drop and jobs disappear can join a union (WashTech), or make a contribution to http://www.hireamericansfirst.org/.
Singalong is nothing but who had another as Matt...You SOB how many id you will create. Dont you have any work..if so, go and f*&k yourself.
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This poster is a troll who also is using the id aka ratface. It the user 'Matt Krause' who was banned a coupla days back but is back creating more troll ids and is using our forum to vent his racist and bigoted views. Please ignore him.

Admins,
I am sure you are aware of this rodent, please do the needful.
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So, if anyone mentions the term Indian, Paki, Chinese, Sri-Lankan, or any other nationality that is flooding the I.T. market with phony H-1B visas, he is automatically a racist?

And seahawks, yes together we can make a difference. Other American "Debelopers" who have seen their wages drop and jobs disappear can join a union (WashTech), or make a contribution to http://www.hireamericansfirst.org/.
You are such a sad and scarce example of the 'Ugly American'. I guess among millions of hard working immigrants that migrate to the US, you and your ancestors were the "rotten bunch" that got through.

My sympathies to your unfortunate family who have to bear with such a hateful, vile and bigoted example of a human being. Glad that this country has only a bunch of such losers and the new generation is more tolerant of other immigrants.

Guys,
Atleast now stop squabbling among ourselves based on EB2 vs EB3, ROW vs India/China, Religion and other minor differences. I for one am now motivated by this racist in not arguing with a fellow IVian and doing my best in helping us achieve our American dream legally and with dignity. I request the others who were parts of posts like 'Massacre in Palestine', 'Mumbai Attacked', ect to stop arguing and unite together.

Have a wonderful Superbowl weekend ya'all.
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Yes, I wish ya'all would stop bickering amongst yourselves, I hear broken English and Hindi arguing all day long. And please learn to communicate with proper grammer, especially when you write.

And tell your friends in Bangalore to stop calling me and promising so-called "Senior Debeloper" positions at Microsoft and Dell -- I know they are just trolling for honkeys to put in the "rejected" pile so that they can prove that no American can fit the requirements.

FYI, I am not Matt. If I am, then I created an entire blog with 3 years worth of posts to trick the IV "community." Did it ever occur to you indentured servants that there are millions of hard working Americans who are facing declining wages and dismal job prospects because of the colossal scam that has been committed by the Indian state to export their illiterate masses to the rest of the world? And that maybe we are sick of it? But of course, the first instinct of you imports is to ban and censor anyone who does not share your views -- which is not surpising considering that most of you come from a place that doesn't exactly value human rights and basic liberties.

It is payback time, Desis. We are sick of getting "customer support" from illiterate Punjab farmboys, and seeing you H-1Bs sitting comfortably in air-conditioned offices while veterans, minorities, and hard working Americans with REAL college degrees are pushed out of there careers because Indian males can only work with their own kind and have formed these massive ghettos in I.T. where whitey is not allowed.

And BTW, how did all of you first generation immigrants get to all these white collar jobs? My political refugee father spoke 6 languages, wrote fluently, and still had to drive a cab and wait tables until he worked his way up. Yet you folks feel entitled to every single programmer, scientist, or tech "support" job in the country, even though you can barely speak English. I just don't get it -- the bribes you have to pay must be enormous.
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And BTW, how did all of you first generation immigrants get to all these white collar jobs? My political refugee father spoke 6 languages, wrote fluently, and still had to drive a cab and wait tables until he worked his way up. Yet you folks feel entitled to every single programmer, scientist, or tech "support" job in the country, even though you can barely speak English. I just don't get it -- the bribes you have to pay must be enormous.
Your history explains it all. No wonder you don't get it. Somehow some former immigrants( aka citizens) think that they are eligible for the best jobs here just for being born here.

Reevaluate yourself and grow up!
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Yes, I wish ya'all would stop bickering amongst yourselves, I hear broken English and Hindi arguing all day long. And please learn to communicate with proper grammer, especially when you write.

And tell your friends in Bangalore to stop calling me and promising so-called "Senior Debeloper" positions at Microsoft and Dell -- I know they are just trolling for honkeys to put in the "rejected" pile so that they can prove that no American can fit the requirements.

FYI, I am not Matt. If I am, then I created an entire blog with 3 years worth of posts to trick the IV "community." Did it ever occur to you indentured servants that there are millions of hard working Americans who are facing declining wages and dismal job prospects because of the colossal scam that has been committed by the Indian state to export their illiterate masses to the rest of the world? And that maybe we are sick of it? But of course, the first instinct of you imports is to ban and censor anyone who does not share your views -- which is not surpising considering that most of you come from a place that doesn't exactly value human rights and basic liberties.

It is payback time, Desis. We are sick of getting "customer support" from illiterate Punjab farmboys, and seeing you H-1Bs sitting comfortably in air-conditioned offices while veterans, minorities, and hard working Americans with REAL college degrees are pushed out of there careers because Indian males can only work with their own kind and have formed these massive ghettos in I.T. where whitey is not allowed.

And BTW, how did all of you first generation immigrants get to all these white collar jobs? My political refugee father spoke 6 languages, wrote fluently, and still had to drive a cab and wait tables until he worked his way up. Yet you folks feel entitled to every single programmer, scientist, or tech "support" job in the country, even though you can barely speak English. I just don't get it -- the bribes you have to pay must be enormous.
Hello ,

Which part of US are you from? If you are from DC beltway area, do let me know.
We can meet for a coffee and discuss about your grievances. I've a ton of stories to share with you too....I hope you accept this offer and be man enough to have a real and constructive discussion face to face instead of hiding behind anonymous id. Tunnel may be good for rats but not for men!

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Hey Dawg, why would I want to meet with someone who advocates for the subversion of our laws so that illiterate programmers can come to American and displace folks like me? Meeting with you sounds like a trap. I wouldn't put it past a vindictive Desi try to out me at the Indian concentration camp I work at so that I can be fired and replaced by an import.

I've have been in I.T for 15 years, on both sides, hiring and getting hired. It is a huge scam to declare a programmer shortage and bribe, pressure, and lobby American politicians in order to get more people to the U.S. and render the U.S. programmer extinct.

And I'll remain anonymous as long as corruption and bad ethics are rampant in the Desi community. Just reading about how you people treat your H-1Bs and how you exploit your fellow countrymen to make a quick buck disgusts me.

We can swap stories online if you want. Did I ever tell you about the time I had to do a phone screening for programmer, and a Desi agency had me talk to a sharp and very articulate Indian "candidate." When I recommended him to my boss who needed to fill a spot, the agent sent over an illiterate Pakistani from the other side of the country, and it was my job to train him. Obviously not them same guy I talked -- this Paki couldn't speak English or write code. I was fired after a few days, with no notice, yet Mr. H-1B got linger for a couple of weeks because his sponsor had a contract that required two weeks notice.

How's that for a start? I have a ton more on my blog if you are interested.
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Well, you don't even know what my thoughts are and you have already assumed what it is!
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