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Today Murthy supports the GC for home buyers in US and the list is growing....

What is preventing IV from moving this top of the agenda?

Instead of fighting for the cause (removing backlog/country quota which is outdated) which only benefit us if we get the GC, this is two way beneficial strategy....as US and its citizens get equal benefit and indirectly will lead to job creation as well.


Many realtors are much interested about this plan and hundreds of thousands have $$$ to buy but can't move forward due to uncertainty.

again....What is preventing IV from moving this on top of the agenda?
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my prediction is that you will soon get bad comments from Sanju and Teli.
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Today Murthy supports the GC for home buyers in US and the list is growing....

What is preventing IV from moving this top of the agenda?

Instead of fighting for the cause (removing backlog/country quota which is outdated) which only benefit us if we get the GC, this is two way beneficial strategy....as US and its citizens get equal benefit and indirectly will lead to job creation as well.


Many realtors are much interested about this plan and hundreds of thousands have $$$ to buy but can't move forward due to uncertainty.

again....What is preventing IV from moving this on top of the agenda?
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Today Murthy supports the GC for home buyers in US and the list is growing....

What is preventing IV from moving this top of the agenda?

Instead of fighting for the cause (removing backlog/country quota which is outdated) which only benefit us if we get the GC, this is two way beneficial strategy....as US and its citizens get equal benefit and indirectly will lead to job creation as well.


Many realtors are much interested about this plan and hundreds of thousands have $$$ to buy but can't move forward due to uncertainty.

again....What is preventing IV from moving this on top of the agenda?
Could be b'coz everybody can't afford to buy a home in this economy or some of the folks already bought a home.
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Today Murthy supports the GC for home buyers in US and the list is growing....

What is preventing IV from moving this top of the agenda?

Instead of fighting for the cause (removing backlog/country quota which is outdated) which only benefit us if we get the GC, this is two way beneficial strategy....as US and its citizens get equal benefit and indirectly will lead to job creation as well.


Many realtors are much interested about this plan and hundreds of thousands have $$$ to buy but can't move forward due to uncertainty.

again....What is preventing IV from moving this on top of the agenda?


LOL........this idea got caught to other after Nixtor and some others in IV forum started some threads sometime back last year.
GC for home buyers discussion can be seen in many threads on this forum. May be now this idea is getting some momentum and coming in news.
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LOL........this idea got caught to other after Nixtor and some others in IV forum started some threads sometime back last year.
GC for home buyers discussion can be seen in many threads on this forum. May be now this idea is getting some momentum and coming in news.
I still believe its a great idea.
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I still believe its a great idea.

Even I do.
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This will also help those who can not afford to buy by reducing the backlog. I will not believe about what you said about those who already have home. I think not even 5% of us have home which is very less and this great idea can not be left because of those 5%.

We can argue about them when you compaign.
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good question.
my prediction is that you will soon get bad comments from Sanju and Teli.
Dear Zen,

In zen there is a proverb which says - when the student is ready, the master will appear. What that means to me is, when you are ready to understand how things work, someone will show up to help you. But if you are not ready and willing to understand, no one can help you.

The name of this thread is 'What is preventing IV on GC for Home Buyers'. This is a wrong starting point. It implies that everyone in the Congress and Administration wants to make this change, every member of IV is ready for this change, but only IV is preventing this change from happening. And you know, this idea that somehow IV doesn't wants to move on this idea is just plain WRONG.

For those of us who do not know yet, grass roots advocacy is a long drawn time consuming process. It works from bottom to top (and not top to bottom) where in different people in different districts/states talk to their lawmakers, participate in an organized effort to impress and influence the decision makers with their view point, and then over a period of time, the idea starts getting the attention is deserves.

Recently I was talking to someone who has been working on this effort for long time, and in the process I learned that effort for removal of country limits started in January 2007 and it reach a the next level in August 2008 when a bill was introduced to remove country limits. Likewise, last year folks in IV started working on this provision that makes us part of the solution to the housing crisis, and now you can see those ideas reflected in everyday news by so called "thinker" and "economist". And when those discussions occur in the media, everyone wants to give credit to Tom Friedman and Jim Cramer (not sure about this one) etc, not knowing that someone is working behind the scene to make it happen and for these "thinkers" to say whatever they are presenting as their original idea. And then, one fine day, someone will post a thread saying 'What is preventing IV on GC for Home Buyers', asking, if others are talking about it, why can't IV dial 1-800-WHITEHOUSE and get this done?

And that's why, I just repeat here - when the student is ready, the master will appear. So just do a press release whenever you are ready to understand how system works, and how things happen, and I am sure someone will appear to make you understand how things work.


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[color="Blue"]What is preventing IV from moving this top of the agenda?
I find many different types of people on immigration forums. For my own understanding I can generally distribute them in many different broad categories. But one of my favorite is for those who cannot differentiate between Immigration Lawyer and GOD. You just sign-ed up in that category. For folks like you, the words coming out of the mouth of immigration lawyer is the word of GOD. Nevertheless, you have no clue that most immigration lawyers deliberately delay green card application process of people like us because immigration lawyers are part of Employer-Lawyer nexus to help employer retain employee for longer time duration.

But that's ok, now that the GOD has said it, there is no reason for it to not happen. And the only reason this is not happening is because IV is stopping it from happening.

You realize how dumb this is? I just want to know if you realize this. You have any idea what goes on in the world around you and why/who is conspiring to delay your green card application? And you think that immigration lawyers are GOD??? If EB category was a country and we were all citizens on EB country, and if there was a way to renounced my citizenship from this EB country, this was that moment where your post would have pushed me over the edge to renounce my citizenship from EB country .... Cheez


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I still believe its a great idea.
I share your view that this is an extraordinary idea. Not because some immigration lawyer has supported it, not because Tom Friedman said it, but because Nixstor came up with this idea, worked on this tirelessly, met with many TOP officials in federal government and has sent a lot of communications to many folks who weigh in on this issue. When he started that thread few months back, he was not shooting from the hips, and he was not expecting someone else to work on the idea. He came up with the idea, and worked on it, tirelessly. And my problem is, after working on this issue tirelessly for a long time, he will soon come to this forum and see this thread by some educate illiterate, telling others that even my Lord Immigration Lawyer, the real form of GOD walking on this planet have also said it. I just feel irritated with the level of our ignorance on an issue that affects us every second of the day.

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Ha Ha ha, you were pretty right
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why can't be your response be straight or point to point instead of writing long stories?

If you support this then say clear about it or say in short why you can't?
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sanju,

why can't be your response be straight or point to point instead of writing long stories?

If you support this then say clear about it or say in short why you can't?
WaitingUnlimited aka George Bush,

Sorry I forgot, I have to simplify things so that you can understand. You are either with us or against us.


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Ha Ha ha, you were pretty right
Is that you teli. did you change your name to thomachan72?


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