Petition for Citizenship - Legal Non- Immigrants

[Saralayar]

There is a petition for Citizenship path if any one living in US legally for 10 years and more. It should have atleast 5000 signatures for Obama's Administration to look into this. Personally I feel it will be good if this is considered as many of the high skilled non - immigrants living legally in USA for more than 10 years, paying all taxes, buying homes etc., but still in an ALIEN status. All European countries have their Citizenship path very smooth (5 years minimum). It is just a try and if we get this, it will be excellent. IV members, please do not argue on this and sign so that it will reach the 5000 signature mark before October 26, 2011. Thanks.


Short URL: http://wh.gov/4ki
Save and Share this URL: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...d-tax/mQXpMRDb

[actaccord]

Please use your common sense and stop creating/sharing new petitions every day.

No one is arguing, all we are trying to do is educate you on how in reality laws are created.

If at all Obama considers your petitions what he can do, all he has is 13 months in his term and he has no legislative authority.


From Obama (source : Obama says he can't fix immigration on his own - CBS News ),


"I think there's been a great disservice done to the cause of getting a Dream Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow by myself I can go and do these things," Obama said. "We have to pass bills through the legislature and then I can sign it."


All you are asking is "I don't want to understand the reality....so does everyone else" so lets all continue signing online petitions and stop worrying about it.


And don't come to public forum if you don't want anyone to disagree with you.

[snathan]

Move all these petitions to 'lighten up' threat....

[schumy_micheal]

I think IV discussion foums become Petition crazy now a days..I happened to look at the trends and highest polled petitions in the website and our issues are not even in the Top 30 of the current petitions..the one's on the top are for Legalizing medical mariuana, Forgive student loans, Abolish TSA etc which the citizens can relate to..:-)...The disclaimer says that it will take weeks before a official response and you can expect the official response may be from the next President.......

Please do not fall for this petition strategy..The only thing they are going to do is collect the email id's from registered users and send targeted Poll campaigns for the reelection...The only reply you will receive is some Bu$$ S$$$ standard verbage....

~Schumy

[GCHope2011]

Originally Posted by Saralayar

There is a petition for Citizenship path if any one living in US legally for 10 years and more. It should have atleast 5000 signatures for Obama's Administration to look into this. Personally I feel it will be good if this is considered as many of the high skilled non - immigrants living legally in USA for more than 10 years, paying all taxes, buying homes etc., but still in an ALIEN status. All European countries have their Citizenship path very smooth (5 years minimum). It is just a try and if we get this, it will be excellent. IV members, please do not argue on this and sign so that it will reach the 5000 signature mark before October 26, 2011. Thanks.


Short URL: http://wh.gov/4ki
Save and Share this URL: https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...d-tax/mQXpMRDb

Here is the official response from [White House/ Congress/ Senate/ Congressmen/ Senator]:

"Thank you for reaching out with regards to your [idea/ initiative/ situation]. The [President/ Members of Congress/ Senators/ Representative/ Senator] welcomes your participation in helping to solve our [social/ economic/ immigration] problems and would like to assure you that your inputs are very valuable and will be appropriately considered whenever an appropriate legislation comes up for consideration.

Thank you for reaching out - [I/ We] do hope to partner with you as we work to make this country stronger. "

And all our folks will be satisfied at the happy ending of all these petitions

[Saralayar]

Originally Posted by actaccord

Please use your common sense and stop creating/sharing new petitions every day.

No one is arguing, all we are trying to do is educate you on how in reality laws are created.

If at all Obama considers your petitions what he can do, all he has is 13 months in his term and he has no legislative authority.


From Obama (source : Obama says he can't fix immigration on his own - CBS News ),


"I think there's been a great disservice done to the cause of getting a Dream Act passed and getting comprehensive immigration passed by perpetrating the notion that somehow by myself I can go and do these things," Obama said. "We have to pass bills through the legislature and then I can sign it."


All you are asking is "I don't want to understand the reality....so does everyone else" so lets all continue signing online petitions and stop worrying about it.


And don't come to public forum if you don't want anyone to disagree with you.

If you don't like it get away from these topics when you browse. I have already mentioned do not argue on this.

[Saralayar]

Originally Posted by schumy_micheal

I think IV discussion foums become Petition crazy now a days..I happened to look at the trends and highest polled petitions in the website and our issues are not even in the Top 30 of the current petitions..the one's on the top are for Legalizing medical mariuana, Forgive student loans, Abolish TSA etc which the citizens can relate to..:-)...The disclaimer says that it will take weeks before a official response and you can expect the official response may be from the next President.......

Please do not fall for this petition strategy..The only thing they are going to do is collect the email id's from registered users and send targeted Poll campaigns for the reelection...The only reply you will receive is some Bu$$ S$$$ standard verbage....

~Schumy

Then sit and enjoy your EAD and AP forever. Pay lot of $$ every year as fee for the EAD and AP. Enjoy...

[snathan]

Originally Posted by Saralayar

Then sit and enjoy your EAD and AP forever. Pay lot of $$ every year as fee for the EAD and AP. Enjoy...

Ya, I am sure all your petition is going to get the GC day after tomorrow. Now go back to your la la land and live happily.

[jimmar]

Guys,
There is nothing wrong in giving a try by filing these petitions. Don't listen to IV craps, there is no guarantee that IV's so called advocacy efforts will bring any changes to EB gc allocations, think logically in a country of around 70 million citizen's unemployed, who gives a crap about foreign workers group like IV anyways. What i'm trying to say is that both IV efforts and these petitions will have the same effect if at all there is any. Instead of wasting time in trying to change the system, try to figure out how to make use of the existing system and be successful. If the per country quota for EB category is removed and if USCIS starts giving GC to all EB2's immediately, you guy's might get GC's but your job's may not last long as most of you are not be in a position to compete with newly graduated, young Indians who are ready to take up jobs in cheap salary and ready to move anywhere in the country.

Thanks
JM

[snathan]

Originally Posted by jimmar

Guys,
There is nothing wrong in giving a try by filing these petitions. Don't listen to IV craps, there is no guarantee that IV's so called advocacy efforts will bring any changes to EB gc allocations, think logically in a country of around 70 million citizen's unemployed, who gives a crap about foreign workers group like IV anyways. What i'm trying to say is that both IV efforts and these petitions will have the same effect if at all there is any. Instead of wasting time in trying to change the system, try to figure out how to make use of the existing system and be successful. If the per country quota for EB category is removed and if USCIS starts giving GC to all EB2's immediately, you guy's might get GC's but your job's may not last long as most of you are not be in a position to compete with newly graduated, young Indians who are ready to take up jobs in cheap salary and ready to move anywhere in the country.

Thanks
JM

There is no boundry for one's stupidity...carry on.

[actaccord]

Unfortunately this is public forum and you have zero rights to say don't argue. If you feel you have every right to be stupid and call others to join your stupidity...I have every right to say what kind of idea is yours...

If you don't like IV how about starting your own forum where only people agree to you can join....oh wait...that will cost you (time and money) and will take years to get even few members...now someone started a forum and you just started a thread and act like owner of the forum....in US people call you as Freeloader. When you are a freeloader better be nice and quite.

Originally Posted by Saralayar

If you don't like it get away from these topics when you browse. I have already mentioned do not argue on this.

[ronhira]

Originally Posted by Saralayar

Then sit and enjoy your EAD and AP forever. Pay lot of $$ every year as fee for the EAD and AP. Enjoy...

Saralayar, my friend, i am sure u'r well meaning man, just like snathan, accord,gchope and all others here..... no one is saying not to do what u think is right..... but there is a consistent message that everyone seem to be tell you & that msg is - these wh petitions have no value.... as gchope tried to give u the gist and likely response u/we all will hear back from the new staffer at the wh who would have no clue @ what u maybe experiencing in u'r life....

although its not fair to say that there r no option other than choosing between the status quo & u'r petition..... it just shows that u want to help help solve the problem..... maybe it would help to learn from other's experience who seem to have tried what u appear to be trying now.... y reinvent the wheel when u need a locomotive.....

[rkg000]

Originally Posted by jimmar

Guys,
There is nothing wrong in giving a try by filing these petitions. Don't listen to IV craps, there is no guarantee that IV's so called advocacy efforts will bring any changes to EB gc allocations, think logically in a country of around 70 million citizen's unemployed, who gives a crap about foreign workers group like IV anyways. What i'm trying to say is that both IV efforts and these petitions will have the same effect if at all there is any. Instead of wasting time in trying to change the system, try to figure out how to make use of the existing system and be successful. If the per country quota for EB category is removed and if USCIS starts giving GC to all EB2's immediately, you guy's might get GC's but your job's may not last long as most of you are not be in a position to compete with newly graduated, young Indians who are ready to take up jobs in cheap salary and ready to move anywhere in the country.

Thanks
JM

Hey Jimmer, I believe no amount of explanation on these open forums will do anything to convince you of IV's efforts. However, just a few questions. Have you ever participated in any of IV's advocacy efforts to say that they have the same effect as online petitions in bringing about any changes. Do you know of any other organization which advocates on behalf of backlogged EB folks. Do you know on whose persistent requests USCIS started issuing 2year EAD/AP and then single EAD/AP document. Based on whose requests did USCIS started publishing pending applications data. If you'd like to know more about IVs efforts, please follow this link. You might not believe in IV's efforts, but you still get to enjoy whatever IV has achieved for EB community.
I am not sure what your priority date and category are but in present system the wait times are 10 years at the minimum. For EB3, its far worse. For the past 2 years there has been relief in terms of spillover due to bad economy and all. Do you want to bet your status on economy staying bad?
Try joining IV as a contributing member, I am pretty sure you'll change your opinion in no time.

[ronhira]

Originally Posted by rkg000

Hey Jimmer, I believe no amount of explanation on these open forums will do anything to convince you of IV's efforts. However, just a few questions. Have you ever participated in any of IV's advocacy efforts to say that they have the same effect as online petitions in bringing about any changes. Do you know of any other organization which advocates on behalf of backlogged EB folks. Do you know on whose persistent requests USCIS started issuing 2year EAD/AP and then single EAD/AP document. Based on whose requests did USCIS started publishing pending applications data. If you'd like to know more about IVs efforts, please follow this link. You might not believe in IV's efforts, but you still get to enjoy whatever IV has achieved for EB community.
I am not sure what your priority date and category are but in present system the wait times are 10 years at the minimum. For EB3, its far worse. For the past 2 years there has been relief in terms of spillover due to bad economy and all. Do you want to bet your status on economy staying bad?
Try joining IV as a contributing member, I am pretty sure you'll change your opinion in no time.

sorry to break the bad news..... but u r wasting u'r time with this guy..... this is usual row shit.... this guy rather see iv fail than join the effort....