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Old 07-03-2009, 08:24 PM
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Default Social Security Insult

I wanted to share this with all of you. This is my attorney & friends (who is American) thoughtful response to a thread below :-

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Donna:

What is the source of your facts about immigrants?? Immigrants also pay A LOT into the
system

MOST "IMMIGRANTS" AS YOU SO LOVINGLY CALL US, ARE LAWFULLY IN
THE UNITED STATES (BELIEVE IT OR NOT!!!) AND THEY ALL WORK A LOT
HARDER THAN MANY AMERICANS ARE WILLING TO WORK!!!!

MANY MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ARE PAID INTO THE SYSTEM BY
THEM EACH YEAR. THOSE HERE ILLEGALLY NEVER HAD, AND NEVER WILL
HAVE THE RIGHT, TO GET ANY OF THE MONEY BADK - EVEN WHEN THEY
HAVE REFUNDS DUE THEM. THE IRS JUST K E E P S IT F O R E V E R AND
IT, HOPEFULLY, GOES TO AMERICANS WHO ARE NOT IMMIGRANTS!!!

GREEN CARD HOLDERS (ALSO "IMMIGRANTS") HAVE WORKED HARDER THAN
AMERICANS DO - AS I MENTIONED AND THEY ARE CLEARLY ENTITLED TO GET
THE BENEFITS THEY HAVE EARNED.

DO YOU FOR ONE MOMENT THINK THAT THE SSA WILL GIVE THE ILLEGAL
IMMIGRANT ANY SOCIAL SECURITY?!!????

NEVER HAPPEN - NEVER HAS HAPPENED!!!! IF THEY FALSIFY INFO TO ANY
GOVERNMENT AGENCY - THEY WILL NECESSARILY GET CAUGHT GO STRAIGHT
TO FEDERAL PRISON FOR AT LEAST 2 YEARS AND THEN GET DEPORED. THIS HAS
BEEN THE LAW FOR DECADES AND IT IS ENFORCED!!!!

EVEN THE LEGAL IMMIGRANTS HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT GETTING THE
SSA THAT IS DUE THEM. THEY GET CHEATED BY THE SSA EVEN MORE THAN
US CITIZENS DO IN THE NORMAL COURSE OF SSA DAILY STEALING OPERATIONS
- IF THEY LEAVE THE COUNTRY FOR TOO LONG (FOR EXAMPLE IF A PARENT GETS
SICK AND THEY HAVE TO GO AND TAKE CARE) THEY JUST L O O S E ALL
THEIR BENEFITS PERMANENTLY - EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE BEEN BEEN
HERE AND WORKED FOR MORE YEARS THAN MOST AMERICANS DO. THIS
KIND OF DISCRIMINATORY CONDUCT BY GOVERNMENT AGAINST LAWEUL
PERMANENT RESIDENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY BEEN HELD TO BE CONSTITUTIONAL
BY THE SUPREME COURT EVEN EVEN THOUGH IT IS CLEARLY UNFAIR. THESE
BENEFITS CAN BE REFUSED VERY EASILY FOR THE LEGAL RESIDENTS WHO
WORKED HAS DOUBLE AND TRIPLE JOBS FOR FIFTY OR MORE YEARS.

WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS? YOU GIVE THE ANSWER!!!

LIGHTEN UP AND LEARN THE REAL FACTS.

ALL IMMIGRANTS ARE NOT ILLEGAL. IN FACT, MOST IMMIGRANTS ARE
LEGAL AND WORK THREE AND FOUR JOBS - DO YOU WANT TO WORK SO
HARD?? HE..- NO!!!!!

PASS THIS ON TO ALL THE PEOPLE YOU KNOW SO THAT THEY CAN BE
EDUCATED ABOUT ANOTHER MORE FACTUAL ASPECT OF THE MATTER.

THANK YOU, DONNA.

xoxoxo

----- Original Message -----
From: Donna xoxoxo
To: xoxoxo@yahoo.com
Sent: 7/2/2009 5:16:27 PM
Subject: Social Security Insult

This is an insult and a kick in the butt to all of us...
Get mad and pass it on - I don't know how, but maybe some good
will come of this travesty.

If the immigrant is over 65, they can apply for SSI and Medicaid and get
more than a woman on Social Security, who worked from 1944 until 2004.
She is only getting $791 per month because she was born in 1924 and
there's a 'catch 22'.

It is interesting that the federal government provides a single refugee
with a monthly allowance of $1,890. Each can also obtain an
additional $580 in social assistance, for a total of $2,470 a month.

This compares to a single pensioner, who after contributing to
the growth and development of America for 40 to 50 years, can only
receive a monthly maximum of $1,012 in old age pension and
Guaranteed Income Supplement.

Maybe our pensioners should apply as refugees!

Consider sending this to all your American friends, so we can all be
ticked off and maybe get the refugees cut back to $1,012 and the
pensioners up to $2,470. Then we can enjoy some of the money we were
forced to submit to the Government over the last 40 or 50 or 60 years.

Please forward to every American to expose what our elected politicians
have been doing over the past 11 years - to the over-taxed American.

SEND THIS TO EVERY AMERICAN TAXPAYER YOU KNOW
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Some ideas should be kept to ones self, saying in public "we work harder, longer" than American will turn public against us even more because they feel in an opposite way and it is an insult.
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I seriously doubt the intentions of the user cygent. What is the point of this thread? As it stands, this thread only provides publicity to immigrant-haters like Donna. Administrators must delete this thread.
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Default Who the fuck are you scared off?

They are already against us and shouting on top of their lungs "SLUMDOG" for the reason that cowards and scared and suppressed people like you never gonna do anything.

The same attitude like yours actually made us slaves for many more years, instead would have got the freedom long long time back.

Next time when your tail is between your legs , do not try to make suggestions.



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They are already against us and shouting on top of their lungs "SLUMDOG" for the reason that cowards and scared and suppressed people like you never gonna do anything.

The same attitude like yours actually made us slaves for many more years, instead would have got the freedom long long time back.

Next time when your tail is between your legs , do not try to make suggestions.

Average American is not calling anyone slumdog. But Average American guy would be angry if he thought guest worker was saying they work harder than lazy Americans. So to say or spread this idea is not helpful to anybodys goals as CIR needs support from American citizens who will not like being thought of as lazy or not working hard.
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