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I am on H-1B and wife on H-4. We did not get our stimulus payment last year since she does not have SSN.

For people who did not receive stimulus payment last year can claim it this year. So for people like me whose wives are on ITIN, can get $600 back this year or so I think. The way to do this can be:

First file Married filing separately, claim $600 credit and then amend it to file married filing jointly. IRS will not ask stimulus back. Let me know your thoughts on this idea. I wish I could get $1200 but hey even $600 is better than nothing.

Any thoughts??
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:19 PM
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Yes you can do it. You could have done this last yr as well.

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I am on H-1B and wife on H-4. We did not get our stimulus payment last year since she does not have SSN.

For people who did not receive stimulus payment last year can claim it this year. So for people like me whose wives are on ITIN, can get $600 back this year or so I think. The way to do this can be:

First file Married filing separately, claim $600 credit and then amend it to file married filing jointly. IRS will not ask stimulus back. Let me know your thoughts on this idea. I wish I could get $1200 but hey even $600 is better than nothing.

Any thoughts??
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:24 PM
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Last year I had already filed for married filing jointly before stimulus check thing was in discussion. From what I understand once you file married filing jointly you cannot amend to married filing separately. You can amend otherwise.

Anyhow this year if I do my taxes separately I end up owing to IRS. Does anyone know where to look for info for amendment?

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how we can do it? we didn't get anything last time. I have wife and 2 kids. So it will be $1800.... when I checked last time it was said that for those who didn't get last time will get it automatically when they file return for 2008. Anybody knows more about it? Please let us know.

Or I guess we can always use Tax Firms also.
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Last year I had already filed for married filing jointly before stimulus check thing was in discussion. From what I understand once you file married filing jointly you cannot amend to married filing separately. You can amend otherwise.

Anyhow this year if I do my taxes separately I end up owing to IRS. Does anyone know where to look for info for amendment?

Thanks
How funny and no brainer this is ? We can give taxes (thousands and thousands of dollars) and no body says , "since your wife is not having SSN, you do not have to pay taxes". But while giving back tax rebates of $1200 to $1800 or so , they say, so.
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hey i want to know too how to do it, my wife does not have ssn and hence i did not get even a penny back last yr, so this yr should i file as single and then when will i get stimulus back ? and how to amend to joint...
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I am on H-1B and wife on H-4. We did not get our stimulus payment last year since she does not have SSN.

For people who did not receive stimulus payment last year can claim it this year. So for people like me whose wives are on ITIN, can get $600 back this year or so I think. The way to do this can be:

First file Married filing separately, claim $600 credit and then amend it to file married filing jointly. IRS will not ask stimulus back. Let me know your thoughts on this idea. I wish I could get $1200 but hey even $600 is better than nothing.

Any thoughts??
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AFAIK, those who become ligible to receive stimulus in 2008 can claim stimulus of previous year. IRS will post information - how to claim it.

UPDATE: Refer to (Thanks gc_dedo)
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irs has already posted ...
There is no fresh memo for becoming ligible, it still holds that both filing jointly should have SSN. If one was not having SSN (in 2007) and could not get last year (in 2008) still won't get stimulus - unless ligibility is changed by IRS and ITIN is brought into it.

I am not sure how much this mechanism works - file alone to get stimulus and then modify return by filing jointly. People who have done this (with 2007 return) should post their experience of returns of 2008 - whether IRS allowed it or not.
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how we can do it? we didn't get anything last time. I have wife and 2 kids. So it will be $1800.... when I checked last time it was said that for those who didn't get last time will get it automatically when they file return for 2008. Anybody knows more about it? Please let us know.

Or I guess we can always use Tax Firms also.
If your kids have SSN then you will probably get around 1200, from my guess. I am sure you will not get for your spouse, for lack of SSN.
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Did any one tried filing single and then amend join in 2007 - can you share your experiences here ....
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I now applied for EAD for my wife (not because she is going to work, just go get SSN). I do plan to get SSN for her and then file amended 2008 return. I wonder if I will get stimulas package then (the one which was given in 2008)?
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irs has already posted how you can get rebate if you were not eligible last year but you are eligible now (after getting dependents ssn)

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...html?portlet=7

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AFAIK, those who become ligible to receive stimulus in 2008 can claim stimulus of previous year. IRS will post information - how to claim it.
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I now applied for EAD for my wife (not because she is going to work, just go get SSN). I do plan to get SSN for her and then file amended 2008 return. I wonder if I will get stimulas package then (the one which was given in 2008)?
I amended my tax for 2007 (filed in early 2008), intially filed with my spouse's ITIN, to change my spouse's ITIN with new SSN. IRS did not send any check. They simply replied that people without ITIN are not eligbile, which I knew, and which was the reason of my amended tax filing. Looks like simply changing ITIN to SSN is not treated as a tax amendment.

If changed situation (new SSN, children etc.) allow the check, this year's tax should take care of it as per instructions on IRS website.

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If you missed last time In 2008 then dont bother. You can still claim with 2008 tax filing. (If you are eligible).

Dont do these mistakes

1. File Married Filing seperately and later amend the tax return. You will do a Big mistake and many times case is screwed and you will lot of problems. I personally handle some of the cases where client screwed the case and we correct the tax return. But for CPA also is a Big pain. and most of the time IRS people will confused and you will be keep getting demand letter and they will treat as a seperate tax return.

2. 2008 payment was just a estimated payment only. This will trueup with 2008 tax filing (in 2009).

Pl consult with CPA / Good tax preparer who has good knoweledge how to handle immigrant taxes.

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Filing seperately is probably not a good option. Since spouse on ITIN, means no income. Given this, the amount you loose on deductions for single will morethan offset the $600 you get.

So one should file joint, and wait for SSN and claim the rebates. I think you can claim the rebates anytime within 3 years. Just sharing what I read in other related threads before and made sense to me.

All said, I still don't know why they ask SSN. Some say for better disbursement of funds etc. But that doesn't make any sense to me. They always make life harder for aliens. Probably they couldn't find a solid excuse to deny rebates to H1B-SSN's. Otherwise this would have been a bigger curse. Most of us got lucky, or they just felt spouses with SSN more likely either both working or primary contributed taxes for many years, so its okay to give back some. whatever reasons behind it..
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